OK - a puzzle for you. Given the increasing financial pressures upon the "motorist". What does the panel think is the cheapest ( all up ) form of reliable but useable long term four wheeled personal transport? Forget taste, forget aspirations, just think money/practicality/usefulness.
I'm going to pitch in with a vote for a low mileage, good condition, three year old diesel Panda.
Gentlemen, start your engnes...
:-)
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In insurance terms the Panda 1.1 Eco Active is group 1 out of a possible 50. Only two other cars have been in group 1, one is the 2CV!.
I would suggest the petrol is cheaper, cheaper to buy, cheaper to service and more generally more reliable. However it does depend on mileage.
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Brand new, last of the line old shape Fiat Panda 1.2. On sale here for 6,000 Euros, including body colored bumpers, PAS, leccy windows and central locking. 1,000 Euros extra gets you aircon and MP3 radio.
Probably still worth more than half that in 3 years, peanuts insurance, economical and fun to drive.
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>> the cheapest ( all up ) form of reliable but useable long term four wheeled personal transport?
>> Forget taste, forget aspirations, just think money/practicality/usefulness.
For lowest whole-ownership costs including depreciation, I'd say my Escort came pretty close. Useable and long term? I did 40k miles in it in 3 years.
Bathtub's KIA probably comes closer.
Last edited by: Dave_TDCi on Wed 18 Apr 12 at 19:43
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Assuming present VED and fuel pricings stay increasing as they are at present.
I'd plump for a used Toyota Aygo petrol and invest the grand needed for LPG conversion, unless i could find a low miles Starlet that didn't get weighed in under the scrappage scam.
Long term economy depends how long it takes to flog off the roads to Dave's mates to charge us for the privelidge of using, when that happens all our present thoughts of road use will change forever.
Will electric cars be exempt for example.
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>> Will electric cars be exempt for example.
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Of course not!
Any incentives are only temporary, everyone will go back to being stung as soon as HMG thinks its 'safe' to....
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>> Of course not!
>> Any incentives are only temporary, everyone will go back to being stung as soon as
>> HMG thinks its 'safe' to....
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Spot on ST, it will be temporary bull shine only but if someone has the funds and can make use of the baiting exercise, then flog it just before the sting is triggered, then it would be cheap motoring.
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2 year old Perodua Myvi, any model except the automatic.
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Cheapest would be driving using LPG gas.No extra taxes to pay in the UK.
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>> Cheapest would be driving using LPG gas.No extra taxes to pay in the UK.
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At the moment.
See my post, above......
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Did see the post swiss tony.Still a good bet on LPG me thinks.If this lot puts up anymore taxes we might as well all go to Coventry.(Londoner) .;)
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Oh, it was just one of those daft office conversations one day over the mid-morning bacon butty break. It so happened that most of the people present either had reasonably upmarket cars provided by the company or had chosen to buy fairly sporty/trendy things of their own.
The topic arose when someone posed the old question as to what was behind the need/want for such things and which cars would actually do most of what they needed a car to do for the least running cost/money and if they were choosing on that basis alone, what would they have.
Trivia really.
I said a Panda with a trailer.
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My tractor is the cheapest form of motoring for local use.
It cost £50 25 years ago, has never needed any repairs, costs £25 pa insurance, and is exempt from road tax and MOT.
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A friend bought a tidy H registered Peugeot 205 diesel two years ago for £500.
It's cost him a total of £150 in maintenance / upkeep since, and is averaging 58 mpg. Reliability has been excellent.
He could probably still sell it now for what he paid for it, or very close to.
Cheapest motoring I've heard of.
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>> cheapest ( all up ) form of reliable but useable long term four wheeled personal transport?
Are you only focusing on purchase price and fuel economy?
If we include insurance, one man's cheap car can become expensive for someone else's transport.
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I don't think it was as complex as that really Movi. More just a (not terribly serious ) ramble about lowest common denominator motoring. In other words, if you cut out all the heart led decisions and come down to the "what do I actually need bit", where do you land?
I jokingly said a Panda above but in truth I'd most likely gravitate back to a Mondeo estate or similar if circumstances dictated. Does everything I need a car to do. Anything more expensive is just fluff really. Not that it's not nice to have something better of course !
No, the question really is,
" If I cut to the chase, and wanted the lowest costs, what is the most inexpensive car I could genuinely, long term, happily and comfortably live with, given my real life needs? "
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>> If I cut to the chase, and wanted the lowest costs, what is the most inexpensive car I could genuinely, long term, happily and comfortably live with, given my real life needs?
Daewoo Matiz because
most inexpensive car - cheap to buy, cheap to run with just 0.8 L engine
long term - plenty of cars older than 10 years running fine
given my real life needs - can ferry 4 adults in reasonable comfort
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Cheapest form of four wheeled personal transport - devonite
