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 1941 Morris Z Type-2 restored to former glory - Dog
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2153753/Vintage-car-rusting-barn-lovingly-restored-second-type-world.html
 1941 Morris Z Type-2 restored to former glory - Avant
Thanks for that, Dog. There were more vehicles made during WW2 than I used to think - mainly commercials but I believe some cars for essential use. I think London worked through all its number-plate registration letters and numbers with G as the first letter during the war, so that makes several thousand in London alone.
 1941 Morris Z Type-2 restored to former glory - Dutchie
What a beauty,would like to take the car for a run.I would feel like a king.>:)
 1941 Morris Z Type-2 restored to former glory - Dog
Interesting to note that the peeps who carried out the restoration were Gilbert Dawson and John Sullivan.
 1941 Morris Z Type-2 restored to former glory - Dutchie
They sound like heavy weight boxers.What a restoration do old skills never die.
 1941 Morris Z Type-2 restored to former glory - Armel Coussine
Handsome restoration indeed, but would be a tedious drive with enforced mimsing here and there. I suppose it's a side-valve 850cc engine like the thirties Morris 8 Tourers (two of the teachers at my school in Ceylon had examples, one of which was photographed standing on its nose in a stream on a tea estate). The very first Morris Minor, a nice little car with superb handling, had the same engine (with a four-speed gearbox instead of three), but the model more or less doubled in power with the advent of the pushrod ohv Minor 1000 engine, losing its sweetness of character at the same time.

It seems slow now, but when new the Minor 1000 was thought brisk for its size and was much favoured by young hotshoes until the Mini came along.
 1941 Morris Z Type-2 restored to former glory - sherlock47
Just to be pedantic the original (post war ) Minor had a 918cc side valve engine, I believe that that engine had prewar origins and would guess that it was used in the Z type 2.

In the Minor it could just about make 60mph - my first car was regularly thrashed the (then) length of the M1 with foot flat to the floor from N. London to Loughborough. Great fun and controllable in the wet and snow, albeit at low speeds!

The series II had a 803cc ohv, followed by the 948cc A series and later increased to 1098cc.
 1941 Morris Z Type-2 restored to former glory - Armel Coussine
>> Just to be pedantic

Pedantry is to be encouraged in these matters. I welcome it. The ohv split-screen Minor also had the raised headlamp position of the Minor 1000. I suppose the result of legislation, but a pity because the original sv Minor with the low headlamps was far, far better looking. My Dublin aunt had one for years and used to let me drive it when I was young. As you note pmh it wasn't dangerously quick by any means but handled absolutely beautifully. Very frugal too even when flogged.
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 1941 Morris Z Type-2 restored to former glory - sherlock47
Mine was a very early 1948 version with low headlamps. To be precise, it only had main beam on the offside lamp, but dipped onto both headlamps. It must have been the original poverty spec, since it also had a single driver side wiper! I never found that specification documented anywhere at the time, (or since). As I was a student, (and drove like one), I was regularly pulled by plod who always took a lot of convincing that the those specifications were original. Maybe I just learned to pass the attitude test very early on.
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 1941 Morris Z Type-2 restored to former glory - bathtub tom
I had an ex PO van. Rubber wings and top-hinged driver's side windscreen. Curious spec, as many things weren't quite the same as comparable cars. I was led to believe they were built to a higher spec.
 1941 Morris Z Type-2 restored to former glory - sherlock47
Many of the PO-BT vans of the same era with A series engines were fitted with a restrictor plate between the carb and inlet manifold. The story was that the vans that were 'personal issue' were frequently modified to improve the performance by removing the restriction. I remember being told that the vans with the restrictor removed, as well as going better, had superior fuel economy as well:)
 1941 Morris Z Type-2 restored to former glory - Ted

Jowetts made private cars into 1940, a couple exist in the owners club.
They ceased production and kept on making the engines for generator sets and pumps.

I found 3 of the gennies in a warehouse locally and bought them all......sold them at £50 profit each.

Wish I'd kept one now, but the engines were no use for cars, having no distributors or starter/ring gear/bell housing.......just a monster flywheel and a magneto..

Ted
 1941 Morris Z Type-2 restored to former glory - Armel Coussine
>> the engines were no use for cars, having no distributors or starter/ring gear/bell housing.......just a monster flywheel and a magneto..

Were they flat-twins like Bradford engines Ted? Don't forget the Bradford was a car, van-like in appearance, and about the cheapest four-wheeler available in its day. I got lifts in several during my hitch-hiking days in the fifties. It wasn't fast but had a good feel as flat engines usually do. One owner quickly freed a sticking valve at the roadside at night too.
 1941 Morris Z Type-2 restored to former glory - Ted

They were indeed, Lud. Another reason they were no use was that there was no facility for fitting a dynamo.


Ted
 1941 Morris Z Type-2 restored to former glory - Armel Coussine
Decent machine shop and a bit of determination and you might have had a magneto-fired, crankhandle-started lightweight Jowett special, 68mph and 55mpg...

Easier said than done of course.

I hope the Javelin is fit and well Ted.
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