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Thread Author: RattleandSmoke Replies: 74

 I don't believe it - flat tyre - RattleandSmoke
After having just about got over my illness (still got a nasty cough but otherwise fine) and spending £98 on a replacement mirror last Friday got to my car this afternoon to find a flat tyre :(.

Neighbours tyres were slashed a few days back, but I can't see any damage on mine but its flat and it took for ever to pump up. Will check the pressure again later to see if its gone down.

So it seems Monday or Tuesday will be other day wasted sorting out car problems :(.

Is this much hassle normal or am I just jinxed?
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Shiny
Reading this forum and the Law of Attraction.
Bound to happen.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - RattleandSmoke
I know punctures are a common thing its just annoying just a week after paying for a new mirror, I bought a brand new car to minimise the chances of things going wrong. If its a back one too with about 5mm tread still left, the front ones are down to 4mm or less so will need changing later in the year, annoyed it wasn't a front one.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Zero

>> So it seems Monday or Tuesday will be other day wasted sorting out car problems
>> :(.


A day wasted? its 10 minutes on the phone and net, and an hour off the road.

>> Is this much hassle normal or am I just jinxed?

Its not hassle, its motoring.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - RattleandSmoke
Its a day wasted because my tyre is an unusual size and the chance of them having in stock for Monday is pretty much nill. So it means another day without a car and having around with buses as it won't be till Tuesday now I can get it replaced .If its a slow puncture I should be able to drive to the depot.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Zero
>> Its a day wasted because my tyre is an unusual size and the chance of
>> them having in stock for Monday is pretty much nill.

I could have a man at your front door by 10:30 and he would be away by 11:30 with your tyre fitted. Your local Kwik Fit has them in stock at 46 quid fitted. Be away from there with a new tyre by 10:00am.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - RattleandSmoke
What details did you put in? Mine is a Panda Eco which has completely different and rarer tyres than the standard pre 2009 Pandas. To be fair I have only checked my usual supplier, Event tyres and they might be in stock need to check the pressure again in a minute to make sure it is leaking and it wasn't just a prankster lettting air out.

Then I will check all the different companies.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Zero
>> What details did you put in? Mine is a Panda Eco which has completely different
>> and rarer tyres than the standard pre 2009 Pandas.

You have 155/80 R13, they are not completely different, you dont even need to use a tyre with "eco" on it.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - RattleandSmoke
Yeah but I would rather keep exact tyre thats already on, they are cheap enough.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - sherlock47
>> Yeah but I would rather keep exact tyre thats already on, they are cheap enough.
>>
type
Just because it has the same manufacurer and same type name does not mean the tread pattern will be exactly the same. It may even be made in a different country!

(based on my replacement 0f a Continental Eco Contact 3 155/80 13 on my Panda cf the spare).
Last edited by: pmh on Sat 12 Jan 13 at 17:49
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - RattleandSmoke
Showing £48 fitted here, I will phone them tomorrow to see if its in stock. Btw I need a Continental Eco Contact 3, 155, 80, 13.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Zero
>> Showing £48 fitted here, I will phone them tomorrow to see if its in stock.
>> Btw I need a Continental Eco Contact 3, 155, 80, 13.

you need a 155/80/r13, but you dont need a conti eco contact 3
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - VxFan
>> Showing £48 fitted here, I will phone them tomorrow to see if its in stock.

If not, and it needs replacing, try Camskill.

£37.39 delivered, and offer some beer money to your local tyre fitter.

www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?show=99092
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Manatee
Just put the pram wheel on and use it. Drop the wheel off for mending and pick it up when it's done? You might not need a tyre.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Armel Coussine
You're not jinxed Sheikha. But you don't use your car enough.

I had a tyre stabbed once in London, along with one or two others nearby. There are nasty mean people about. But they probably think we are idiots to leave machines worth thousands of pounds in the gutter going quietly rusty day after day.

Perhaps they are right.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - RattleandSmoke
I do between 100-120 miles a week, it might not be a lot compared to some people on here, but I am not pottering around doing 5 miles a week. I do around 7000 miles a year, which for a Panda is probably slightly on the high side.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Fursty Ferret
>> I do between 100-120 miles a week, it might not be a lot compared to
>> some people on here, but I am not pottering around doing 5 miles a week.
>> I do around 7000 miles a year, which for a Panda is probably slightly on
>> the high side.
>>


*Mops tea out of keyboard*

Have you used 5th gear yet? :-)
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - RattleandSmoke
Cheeky git! Although to be fair probably not used 5th for a few weeks! When the weather warms up a few photography trips to Derbyshire are planned.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - RattleandSmoke
Just checked, down 5 PSI since I last pumped it up, so its punctured :(.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Dog
What you need to do is to keep one of these in your car: indaloart.com/

I've had one in my car since I've owned it and never had a puncture or a broken mirror.

^_^
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - RattleandSmoke
My sister bought me a wooden car from Cuba, its in my bed room and I am convinced that is giving me bad luck.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Dog
>>My sister bought me a wooden car from Cuba, its in my bed room and I am convinced that is giving me bad luck<<

Cuba you say, ah well, that'll be a Voodoo jobbie or its equiv.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Armel Coussine
Don't you carry a Johnny Conqueroo or equivalent on your person at all times to protect you against sorcery and bad luck Sheikha? Everyone else does. Ask Fursty Ferret or retpocileh. Think of the carnage there might be if they weren't protected!
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Runfer D'Hills
Stick the spacesaver on. It'll be fine for a bit of Mancunian pottering. Sort out the other one either tomorrow or Monday. Er, chill man...

:-)
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - RattleandSmoke
Hopefully shouldn't come to that, don't need the car till Monday and there is a chance I will get it fixed then anyway. At the moment the puncture is slow enough so its still drivable to the tyre place.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Robin O'Reliant
It will be easy enough to find out where it's leaking. Provided it isn't too near the edge it should easily take a repair.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Runfer D'Hills
>>It will be easy enough to find out where it's leaking...

Wee on it and look for bubbles.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Manatee
Rattle, you could have had the pram wheel on by now and sussed the problem. You'd have a usable car and be able to drop the wheel off for whatever it needs.

The boss once left her car outside the village hall overnight, and the following day both back tyres were flat. Both had pinholes in the sidewall, as if from a needle.

More likely yours is a nail or screw in the tread.

As for the wooden car...consider all the unpleasant things that might have happened and didn't - it could be your lucky charm ;-)
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Boxsterboy
It's most likely a screw or nail in the tread. Easily repairable in 10 minutes at your friendly tyre place. As Z says -that's motoring!
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - sherlock47
>>>but its flat and it took for ever to pump up.<<<

just think if was a real tyre -not something off a dinky toy, you would still be pumping!
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Dutchie
I would have put the spare tyre on Rattle.Done in ten minutes with you'r car.Daughter got the same car as yours she had two front tyres replaced plenty in stock.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - BobbyG
Ah but if he puts the spare on then that leaves it totally exposed to air and the possibility of it getting punctured also!
I would put the spare up in your loft to keep it good.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - ....
Have you checked the valve core ? Done a spit test on that ?
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - rtj70
As a few on here say he might find it's fixable. He might also find it's fixed for free.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Bromptonaut
if either of my fleet had a slow leak like that I'd be straight down the the fast fit at Sixfields. They're nearer than Kwik Fit, more friendly and usually cheaper.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - swiss tony
Time to get rid.... as has been said in another thread, when a car starts costing money, that's the time to move it on.....

Anyway, a new tyre will affect the handling - even if its the same make/type, it wont be from the same batch, and who knows what may happen as the car exceeds 30mph.....

;-)
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - No FM2R
>>and who knows what may happen as the car exceeds 30mph

Well, you'd have to be careful the door mirror doesn't blow off, for one.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Dog
>>Well, you'd have to be careful the door mirror doesn't blow off, for one<<

Are the door mirrors on Panda's vegetarian then?

:-D
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - legacylad
Sheesh

My ex found a flat on her Insignia at 4am...daughter had a flight to catch to t'otherside of the world at 8am, so between them they got the spacesaver on and hot footed it 60 miles on the M62/M60/M56 at 70+ to get to Etihad departures. AA said they could not get to her house for an hour so they did what was necessary themselves.

Not recommended from a H & S point of view. Maybe you could ask her for lessons in coping with this motoring stuff.

 I don't believe it - flat tyre - VxFan
>> and who knows what may happen as the car exceeds 30mph.....

It's ok, the flux capacitor has been disconnected.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - RattleandSmoke
Having done a 55,000 word risk assessment tonight I have decided one cannot possibly move the car until one has discovered what is wrong with tyre. I have checked all the relevant laws and regulations and one can conclude the car is not road worthy and could attract 12 points on ones licence.

..........

OK I am taking the mick about of myself now.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - RattleandSmoke
The tyre seems to have stayed up, this morning it was the same pressure as it was last night. Well check it again tomorrow and check the tread for any damage, but I am now thinking it might be a valve problem or some prankster just let the air out.

Not sure what do if the air pressure remains the same over night, if I see no damage to the tyre is it worth getting the valve replaced, or should I just leave it and keep an eye on it?
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Armel Coussine
Put some soapy water or spit in the valve Sheikha, as you have been advised. If there is even a very small leak there should be a sign of it, bubbling usually. If you have some soapy water put it round the tyre lavishly especially where you think there may be a puncture. Any small leak will show in the same way.

Haven't you ever watched tyre men doing this Sheikha? FFS! You're winding us up.

Er, how's the head today by the way? Ten pints was it last night?
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Armel Coussine
>> Ten pints was it last night?

Followed by seven margaritas in a club and two pints of Cobra for a fiver each with your curry at the Star of Damdhurtipore in Longsight? Eh? Eh? I know there's a badass lurking inside you somewhere Sheikha.


 I don't believe it - flat tyre - CGNorwich
"Ten pints was it last night?"

Nah, he was too tyred.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Robin O'Reliant
>>
>> Nah, he was too tyred.
>>

That joke's a bit flat.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Zero
you're just not in the groove.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Manatee

>> That joke's a bit flat.

Not bad under pressure.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Ted

Should have gone on the Tube.

Ted
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Robin O'Reliant
This could be a Goodyear for puns - if we tread warily.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - swiss tony
I think Rattle will be keeping a low-profile after this.....
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - RattleandSmoke
This tread is going to a bit off topic now. I didn't have anything like ten pints last night either, I am getting on a bit, 10 pints would kill me now.

The Hyundai is in for its first service tomorrow, so I really hope the tyre stays up, which is more than I will be able to do in a few years time :p.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Manatee
>> This tread is going to a bit off topic now.

It lost traction a while back.

Time to get a grip.

:-)
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - CGNorwich
"I didn't have anything like ten pints last night either"

Thought that estimate was a bit over-inflated. I'll say goodnight before you go spare.


 I don't believe it - flat tyre - VxFan
>> Put some soapy water or spit in the valve Sheikha, as you have been advised.

Come on, do the job properly. Jack car up, remove wheel, take indoors and put it in the bath.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - swiss tony
>> Come on, do the job properly. Jack car up, remove wheel, take indoors and put
>> it in the bath.
>>

With the coal that's already there?
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Dog
>>With the coal that's already there?<<

That takes me back a bit, over arf a century actually!
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - R.P.
Not sure of the state of the spare in the Fiesta - car now packing a BMW branded compressor - just in case - probably worth as much as the car, best keep it hidden.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - -
Check that spare RP just in case, i collected a load of end of life renters from Man Apt around late 90's, one of them was a Fiesta, when i checked the spare a badly fitted rusted old wheel from at a guess a 60/70's escort with a bald flat 520 x 13 tyre fell out on the floor.
Last edited by: gordonbennet on Mon 14 Jan 13 at 07:53
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - R.P.
Will do, good tip. - although it has come from a known source !
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Zero
>> Not sure of the state of the spare in the Fiesta - car now packing
>> a BMW branded compressor - just in case - probably worth as much as the
>> car,

probably got more horsepower than the fiesta as well.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Roger.
Do they have soap & baths in darkest Manchester?
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Ted

'Ere you.........this is the Primrose Hill of the North. We keep the coal in the shower.

Ted
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Armel Coussine
>> this is the Primrose Hill of the North. We keep the coal in the shower.

Primrose Hill is the Primrose Hill of the North. Have you heard that Alan Bennett talk? You can hardly understand a word he's saying. Bleedin carroteater knowImean?

Come down here taking our jobs and women (and, er, boys)...
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Dog
(Hehehe!)
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - legacylad
Oy...nice bloke that Alan Bennett. Was chatting to him only last week in our shop.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Armel Coussine
>> nice bloke that Alan Bennett.

Very clever and very funny, brilliant writer. Coming down here and taking all our National Treasure slots...

>> Was chatting to him only last week in our shop.

Do you have a shop in Primrose Hill legacy? I suppose it's rude to ask. Sorry.


 I don't believe it - flat tyre - legacylad
No AM, I don't have a shop in Primsose Hill!

The gent in question has a bolt hole oop North where he isn't bothered by the locals.

Nearly knocked him flying recently when out for a jog, turned a corner on an overgrown old walled drovers lane and almost bowled him over.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Bromptonaut
>>
>> 'Ere you.........this is the Primrose Hill of the North. We keep the coal in the
>> shower.

My maternal Grandfather worked at Primrose Hill Colliery between Swillington and Astley, SE of Leeds.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - RattleandSmoke
An update on the situation. The tyre seemed fine yesterday but this morning it was down to 10 psi. I took it to my local tyre place, they put soapy water on it and found the side wall had been slashed. New tyre needed £45 down the drain :(.

This is at last four cars that have been slashed in my area now. Contacted the police who are supposed to be calling me back later.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - CGNorwich
Bad luck Rattle - Moronic mindless vandalism is surely the curse of the modern age. The worst thing about it I suppose is that you can't do much to avoid the same thing happening again if you don't have a garage or off road parking. At least it doesn't seem to be directed at you personally. Let's hope the idiot gets caught or move on.





 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Zero

>> This is at last four cars that have been slashed in my area now. Contacted
>> the police

Oh well, thats your insurance premiums for car and house up.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Harleyman
Had it done to my old Volvo when I lived in a rather insalubrious area of Derby. Discreet enquiries pointed towards a rather cantankerous Asian chap who lived a few doors down; most of my neighbours (also Asians BTW) had suffered similar but couldn't prove it.

Few nights later, having repaired the tyre, I was up early for a 3am start, heard a noise outside as I was coming down the stairs. Grabbed baseball bat (obligatory domestic kit in that area) and burst out of the front door, to see back view of said chap scuttling round into side entry of his house. I went back inside.

Found out in the morning he'd done another car a few doors up, very nice Sikh guy who was a taxi driver. Told him the score, he said he'd sort it.

Never happened again, but matey moved a few weeks later.
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - Armel Coussine
There's one of these toerags in a village near here, a quiet place full of well-off people (like most round here) but with a very popular pub, much frequented by the young. People know who he is. Surprisingly he is an Olympic standard sportsman but I won't say in what sport. He twisted the rear wiper on my beautiful Renault 18 GTX estate many years ago (that poor car was a vandal magnet though, too pretty for its own good) when I went to pubs more often and parked near his house.

Thing is, a toerag is a toerag. It's a moral and behavioral thing, not a social or political one. A lot of lumpen 'skivers', druggies and so on are perfectly well-behaved and moral, and a lot of uptight respectable 'strivers' and the like are anything but. You soon learn that when you start to get about in life. But people will take their intellectual lead from the comics...
 I don't believe it - flat tyre - R.P.
Good point AC in the final paragraph - my life experience as well.
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