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Offered with 190 miles recorded and the invoice for the original sale included, £656. Estimated between £7000 and £10000. The fact that is is Brown isn't going to be a plus but the leather upholstery might help. I would have thought that was quite unusual
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he seats are not leather - Rexine was a synthetic leather lookalike but it was very unpleasant to sit on for a longer journey.
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190 record miles or 100190 miles! Unless it has all its rubbers replaced etc it will need a lot of work doing. Does it even run?
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The report I read said leather but I did think it was an unlikely option!
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What the Telegraph article didn't say was that the owner liked to take the engine to pieces every year... and it's still in pieces at the moment. The front bumper is also missing.
See auction site here: www.cwharrison.co.uk/
I can't seem to post a direct link to the car but it's lot No.401
Edit, managed to find a link:
www.i-bidder.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/c-w-harrison-and-son/catalogue-id-ibcw10090/lot-cd0d0391-1f19-484b-b591-a43700e8eb45
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>> The report I read said leather but I did think it was an unlikely option!
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A quick Google says the de-luxe version had leather seats as an option.
Or leather-faced, whatever that means.
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" Part of our clients joy was to strip the engine down each year, unfortunately he was taken ill halfway through the process last year"
Perhaps 'those nice young men in their clean white coats' turned up?
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Yes, it would be nice assembling an A series engine, balanced, nitrided etc., subtly fettled and ported. There would be complications and you'd have to take your time. The Minor 1000 was the Mini-Cooper of its day in the hands of young men with rich parents (and it could do a lot more than 62mph, more like 80 with a bit of a slope to help). Of course there were fewer cars then.
But what about the rest of the car? Even if it was rust-free (some hope) you'd have a hell of a time getting bushes etc. and putting it together straight... Makes me shudder to think of all the hassle and stress, but it would be good fun for a gung-ho mechanically adept youngster.
(How about it Sheikha? Put iron in your soul that would. Ted would be a tower of strength).
:o}
I know the original sweet little 800cc sidevalve Minor had a torsion bar front end, but I'm damned if I can remember if the 1000 had torsion bars too.
Last edited by: Armel Coussine on Thu 12 Feb 15 at 18:55
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If I wanted a Minor there are plenty of decent ones a lot cheaper than that. I am not sure how a original they are though. There are a load of Morris Minors round here that seem to come out to play in the summer. I suspect a lot of them have been converted to disc breaks and K series engine etc.
I have a mate who has just bought a FIAT 126 BIS, now that would be a fun car to play with.
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>> If I wanted a Minor there are plenty of decent ones a lot cheaper than that.
I bet most of them are restored rustbuckets with a bit of welding and underseal.
>> I have a mate who has just bought a FIAT 126 BIS, now that would be a fun car to play with.
Yes, engine at the back is always good. I'm ashamed to say I can't remember if the 126 has a two-cylinder engine or a small four. The one I fancy is the 3-cylinder Twingo.
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My wife has a cousin who "does up old cars" as a sideline business / hobby. He's lucky enough to have a large workshop in his back garden which is big enough to house up to 3 cars with room to walk around them.
He's pretty meticulous in his restorations and some of the cars he's worked on have looked fabulous when completed. Nothing fancy usually, mostly mainstream 60s vehicles including Beetles, Heralds, Anglias etc.
One of his more recent projects was a Morris Minor which so far he has avoided selling and is currently actually using as his daily driver much to his wife's dismay.
I'm not altogether sure it has a standard engine in it though as it sounds altogether meatier than it should. I must ask him.
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All the Morris Minor/1000s had torsion bars. There was a company in Bath (still is, as far as I know) that will supply every part for them. I think they will supply one completely restored with upgrades if you want one. I wouldn't want one, though, I thought they were horrid things.
There you go,
www.morris-minor.co.uk/
or here
www.morrisminor.org.uk/
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Yeah... I don't want one either, but they were OK in their day.
There's a pumped up one round here, with those chromed American sort of truck wheels sticking out at the sides and the towering air intake of a tweaked Rover V8 sticking out of a hole in the bonnet.
Must be a hopeless thing, hard to drive and probably no quicker crosscountry than a tuned real Minor. Must look good outside the pub though.
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I never wanted one either, although I suppose I did have its slightly rakish cousin in the form of an MG Midget.
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A 1960 Morris 1000 in Dove Grey - our first car and still think very fondly of it. Bought at four years old with 29k and owned by two old ladies in Blackpool...:-)
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There was a V8 Minor that blew most other cars into the weeds. Little noise as pretty well all the energy in the exhausts blew the turbos round.
www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/morris-minor-nick-mann-hillclimb-special-1989.312352/
I saw it at the Brighton Speed Trials a good few years ago.
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That isn't the one I mean Sp. And by the way, that's a sidevalve or anyway pre-1000 bodyshell!
Doubtless the one I mentioned can accelerate rapidly in a straight line. I didn't mean useless in every way... but I wouldn't fancy it as everyday transport.
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I've had a couple of travellers in the past. We had them brand new..saloons....as Panda cars about 1967. They were nippy enough for the city with a nice crack to the exhaust on the over-run. You could drive in a helmet as well...unlike the Mini 850s which followed !
There's a specialist 3/4 mile from here, Millennium Morris Minors. Long established firm, I know them well. Probably why they are popular round here.
You can do a lot to one, Midget front suspension and brakes, 1300cc mill, radials, better seating, etc. A silver ragtop round the area has alloys and an Alfa engine. Does the shows regularly.
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I had one with twin SU carbs. No leather seats though. Taught me to appreciate RWD's - learning curve was pretty steep.
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I've always disliked them even when new.
Ugly shape, silly exhaust noise, very slow.
Once again I'll plug the Triumph 2000. Stylish, fast, good suspension design for performance and comfort, spacious interior, large boot.
Reliable every-day car as well as great fun.
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>> I've always disliked them even when new.
>> Ugly shape, silly exhaust noise, very slow.
Fit only for the District Nurse
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>> >> I've always disliked them even when new.
>> >> Ugly shape, silly exhaust noise, very slow.
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>> Fit only for the District Nurse
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only fit for the fit District nurse - is this a statement on your limited capabilities or desires?
in 1964 a Minor (or better still a soft top) was probably one of the best £25 cars around. My friends had Ford 1172 sv cars - dreadful things!
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>> in 1964 a Minor (or better still a soft top) was probably one of the
>> best £25 cars around. My friends had Ford 1172 sv cars - dreadful things!
>> only fit for the fit District nurse - is this a statement on your limited
>> capabilities or desires?
No, clearly more a statement on your rather perverse desires!
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1966 Motor road test gives the Morris Traveller about the same performance as the Ford Anglia estate. Others of the same price range were similarly afflicted by sluggishness. Morris retail £607. Triumph £1433. Undoubtedly superior, not exactly comparable?
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>> Once again I'll plug the Triumph 2000.
Tsk. A much bigger and classier car... like comparing redcurrants with coconuts.
>> Ugly shape, silly exhaust noise, very slow.
Matter of taste, nice exhaust rasp to some people, and not 'very slow' at all by the standards of the time. Naturally small cheap cars have evolved a bit since then.
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>>I know the original sweet little 800cc sidevalve Minor had a torsion bar front end, but I'm damned if I can remember if the 1000 had torsion bars too. <<
Sidevalve was 918cc until about 1952? Sweet was not appropriate word!
Subsequently 803cc ohv engine (similar to BMC A).
grown to 948cc then 1098cc
Torsion bars throughout its life, eevn when repackaged as a Marina!
i ran a 1500cc BMC B ( ex Rilley 1.5, twin SU ) in an old Minor for a time in 1969. Al little nose heavy. But very quick to 60mph in those days when combined with a van back axle!
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>> Sidevalve was 918cc until about 1952? Sweet was not appropriate word!
Subsequently 803cc ohv engine (similar to BMC A).
grown to 948cc then 1098cc
Yeah OK Holmes, you have it all at your fingertips. What I remember is that my rich aunt had one in Dublin, a sweet little very early sidevalve sub-one-litre split-screen, low headlight Minor. It sat in their garage next to her husband's shabby Mark VII Jaguar. That was the first car in which I was let loose on the road unaccompanied (also inexperienced and lacking any sort of licence, but Ireland was offhand about such things in the early fifties).
I insist that it was a charming vehicle, too slow to get one into trouble and with perfect handling.
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ah a low light - that was same as my first! super poverty spec, with only one wiper and single dipping headlight!
I am a sad case - the info is not at my finger tips - straight from the remaining grey matter :)
Z might mock, but the performance of the later ones was adequate by the standards at the time, and as you say, the ride and handling was excellent.
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>> Z might mock, but the performance of the later ones was adequate by the standards
>> at the time, and as you say, the ride and handling was excellent.
Z mocks because it was not exactly cutting edge when it came out (mechanically - good use of space tho) and it soldiered on for far far too long. Its a typical tale of British Motor manufacturing
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>> good use of space tho) and it soldiered on for far far too long. Its
>> a typical tale of British Motor manufacturing
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Yep - we should have been more like the Germans with that Beetle thing and gone for a short production run.
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My brother owned a 1955 (?) Minor convertible. We rebuilt the engine, brakes and suspension.. (the brake cylinder lives in a chassis member under the floor and corrodes.
Axle tramp in any gear,,
Tuning with a Marina 1.3 engine and Riley 1.5 front drums was cheap and cheerful: we did not bother as we were students and poor.
I would not want to drive one although there are several used daily around us.
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>> Yep - we should have been more like the Germans with that Beetle thing and gone for a short production run.
Heh heh... now the Beetle was a serious classic of automotive design, a truly great world car. Thank you Dr Ferdiand... Never driven one that I didn't like, even a 1300cc convertible in California... but the best was a high-mileage early swing axle example.
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Rose-tinted specs of course, but I think I'd like a sound, rot-proofed Minor, preferably with at least a 1098 engine to keep up with the traffic.
I learnt on one. I came to love that distinctive exhaust overrun sound.
At least you had to drive them, which is a part of what I miss now - remember when you needed just a little bit of skill to maintain speed on hills, as well as choosing which one you were using to descend them to avoid running out of brakes?
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>> At least you had to drive them, which is a part of what I miss
>> now - remember when you needed just a little bit of skill to maintain speed
>> on hills, as well as choosing which one you were using to descend them to
>> avoid running out of brakes?
And this is a good thing?
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>> And this is a good thing?
Up to a point!
If you have a car as a hobby, it's a different matter. I suppose it would be easier not to play golf than to play it, or not to go chasing around after steam locos :)
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>> Yep - we should have been more like the Germans with that Beetle thing and
>> gone for a short production run.
And what did they replace it with? The golf. (completely different) What did we replace the Moggy with? The Marina.
Touche.
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www.britishpathe.com/video/tests-such-as-these/query/autobahns
20,000 mile test of BMC engines. It doesn't say much for the manufacturers faith in them that they expected it to be a test to destruction!
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I seem to recall my grandfathers replacing the engines of their Austin/Morris cars at fairly small mileages (by todays standards) with a "gold seal" engine
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>> grandfathers replacing the engines of their Austin/Morris cars at fairly small mileages (by todays standards) with a "gold seal" engine
From Brentford or somewhere like that. 'Got a new engine,' people would say with a certain smugness. Actually a roughly remanufactured unit, sold at a tempting price, which might be a bag of nails from the start if you were unlucky, and wouldn't last long at all in most cases. Plus, by the time you'd bought all the gaskets and seals, transferred the cylinder head, valves, pushrods and other top-hamper from the old engine and knackered yourself or paid some incompetent deadbeat to put it together, it would cost more than a genuine new engine but perform like the POS it actually was...
A friend got a short Mercedes 5-cylinder engine from one of those places and hammered it confidently for the 2,000 miles, if that, that it lasted before running the big ends. I warned him, but he wouldn't listen. The guarantee he depended on meant they would give him another short engine and he would have to install and reassemble it or get someone else to... Great cat in many ways but an automotive halfwit.
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Remember colleagues talking a new 'short' engines in Escorts and such like. Exchange and Mart was full of ads offering rebuilt or exchange units. Other drivers did their own work. My maternal Uncle and his friend Rodney spent a weekend or two sorting out the latter's Mk2 Cortina and its appetite for oil.
Doubt it had done more than 30k, though he did tow a caravan.
My Berlingo by contrast will hit 150k next week and might use 250ml between services.
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>> My Berlingo by contrast will hit 150k next week and might use 250ml between services.
Modern manufacturing methods have transformed the automobile. They were developed in the first instance by Japanese makers. Devilish cunning chaps, these Orientals. Or rather, marginally rational, unlike Europeans and Americans who are basically a bunch of weapon-waving savages barely past the woad stage.
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>> Modern manufacturing methods have transformed the automobile. They were developed in the first instance by Japanese makers.
Actually that 'first instance' is slightly misleading.
All the machining and casting techniques, or nearly, are western - European - and more than a century old. So is 'Fordist' mass production, although that's essentially American. Bringing all of these things to their present level of speed, accuracy and perfection was done in the Far East by Japan and other countries. It's a simple matter really, of the computer eliminating human error and sloppiness.
Globalization - you may not love it, but it's good for you in the short and medium term.
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I had a main bearing cap snap on my MkII 1600E Cortina at 25K miles.
The only realistic option was a replacement engine. The only supplier was Ford so I had a gold seal engine from them.
It was still going well at 110K
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>> The only supplier was Ford so I had a gold seal engine from them.
It was still going well at 110K
Of course Ford would supply a better engine than one of those rebuilding outfits. Probably much the same as a new Ford unit bar a couple of details.
I remember a hired Cortina 1500 estate with great affection. It could do well over 100 on the clock and never put a foot wrong.
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I learned to drive in 1964, Morris 1000 XMS88 most of the time and VMS910 (IIRC), dreadful, slow, noisy, crash 1st gear.
16 lessons @ 7/6p (37.5p) per hour - so £16.00 to pass my test inc the test fee.
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My brother in law acquired a very scruffy convertible Minor, discovered in an outbuilding of his new house.
Six of us piled in for a spin. and found it had sagged so that the doors wouldn't shut. The secret was to keep the doors shut and climb in over them.
He sold it mid-trip to a hitch-hiker and swapped roles.
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>> Of course Ford would supply a better engine than one of those rebuilding outfits. Probably
>> much the same as a new Ford unit bar a couple of details.
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The difference was that I had no real option. The engine rebuild, due to the amount of machining required plus parts was a crazy price and all of those back street outfits did not want to know.
>> I remember a hired Cortina 1500 estate with great affection. It could do well over
>> 100 on the clock and never put a foot wrong.
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A happy clock!! The road test of the 1600E maxed out at about 96.
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>> A happy clock!! The road test of the 1600E maxed out at about 96.
That's possible. Above 60 or so the speedometer needle oscillated back and forth over a 20mph arc. But the estate had good aerodynamics, better than the car, and by splitting the difference hammering over Salisbury Plain, when the oscillation was between about 95 and about 115, I reckon it was doing a genuine ton at least some of the time. From memory it was quite new and low mileage, but of course it had been thoroughly thrashed so was a rapid example at that stage of its life. Production cars were quite variable from new in those days. Probably still are.
Like all Fords at that time it had a terrific gearbox. Learned to do clutchless changes in that car too.
Never liked the 1600E or any Mk II, III or IV Cortina. The first Cortina looked and was the best one.
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Morris - 1968 Morris Minor for sale - Falkirk Bairn
