Nice motor but -
You might need a few more pennies for the maintenance of the hydraulics and electrics.
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"Property of Bill Wyman".
I'd check under the seats for any bits of school uniform first.
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"You might need a few more pennies for the maintenance of the hydraulics and electrics. "
That's why I allowed £20 over the selling price!! ;-)
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>>You might need a few more pennies for the maintenance of the hydraulics and electrics.
Plus a few bob to throw at the engine: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_SM#Engines
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seen the under bonnet shot? not impressed
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An old SM... I don't think so. Great car in its way, but it would have to be new.
Less complex cars - proper vintage and PVT ones - carry their years more gracefully and affordably. This last is a very relative, stretchable term.
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>> seen the under bonnet shot? not impressed
The hydropneumatic spheres are easy. Not sure about the Maserati bits though.
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>> >> seen the under bonnet shot? not impressed
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>> The hydropneumatic spheres are easy. Not sure about the Maserati bits though.
I meant the state of it, it could do with a damn good clean up, the air intake hose needs replacing, some of the wiring is cacked, and generally it looks in a sheet state, NOT what I would expect for my 60+k quid.
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My dream car. As a kid I promised myself I would own one - a promise that I am yet to keep. And the way the prices are going I will have to make do with a CX instead! There's an immaculate early CX2200 on the market for £10,000 at the moment. A lot for a CX, but it IS early and immaculate.
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>> There's an immaculate early CX2200 on the market for £10,000 at the moment. A lot for a CX, but it IS early and immaculate.
Terrific motor if it's a good one. If it's really that good, buy it.
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>> the state of it, it could do with a damn good clean up, the air intake hose needs replacing, some of the wiring is cacked, and generally it looks in a sheet state, NOT what I would expect for my 60+k quid.
You can always clean that up bit by bit.
The thing that looks dodgy to me is that only the first photo has the car with the suspension in normal roadgoing mode. All the others show it with the suspension raised as if to negotiate a ploughed field. Can't help wondering why.
No way would I buy the thing even if I had the bread. And I really like Citroens too.
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>>And I really like Citroens too.
But you choose to drive a Chrysler, had an Ford before that, and a phew! dodgy Skodas too in the not too distant past.
^_^
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I like (big) Citroëns too, although I've never had one, apart from the red SM that was one of my favourite Corgi models 40 years ago. It had opening doors and - I now understand - remarkably realistic seats and interior details.
Still wouldn't want a Chrysler - although I suppose it might be better than walking.
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Last edited by: WillDeBeest on Tue 30 Jun 15 at 11:53
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>> But you choose to drive a Chrysler, had an Ford before that, and a phew! dodgy Skodas
I don't have enough money to 'choose' cars. I just get landed with them for one reason or another.
However: I have come to quite like the Chrysler after getting used to it, and the Skodas - some of which I did choose, the first one because it was cheap - weren't dodgy at all. My first car, and later the only one I ever bought new, were Citroens.
Nothing's perfect needless to say. I am a stern and meticulous car critic.
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>>My first car, and later the only one I ever bought new, were Citroens.
There's a world of a difference between Citroens of yesteryear, and the stuff they churn out today. I've worked on and driven the Dyane, Visa, LNA, DS, AX, BX CX, GS. Even an old Traction, once upon a time. I wouldn't touch a 2CV though, the blasted contact breakers were on the flywheel and were a devil of a job to set up.
As I've said before, I bought a new BX 16TRS back in the '80's, but we didn't get on, so I sold it to a Jewboy up in norf lunden after just 5 months.
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GS was a very nice motor Perro but flimsy I believe. I agree with you about 2CV contact breaker though, very awkward to get at.
Having bought the Dyane new I used to get it serviced at Eurocars Marble Arch. The chief mechanic was a mustachioed Frenchman, and the car always went better after he'd serviced it.
My first car was a 1948 lhd Light 15, rusty and a bit clapped but with twin Solex carbs so went well. Paid 60 quid for it and it was a great car for the four months I had it. I hadn't much of a clue back then and treated it badly.
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I did have a soft spot for the GS, I quite liked the optional semi-auto box too. My brother bought a new GSA X1 the same as this one: www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C486279 but it soon started playing up and leaking oil, so he bought a new BX 14.
I fancied one so I bought the BX16, but tbh I preferred the 1360cc engine in his, to the rather coarse-sounding 1580cc jobbie in mine.
I still luv my Subaru with its flat-four engine though ... just saying :)
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>> I wouldn't touch a 2CV though,
>> the blasted contact breakers were on the flywheel and were a devil of a job
>> to set up.
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My own experience and that of the chaps who wrote the Haynes manual (p. 64) is that the contact breaker on the 2CV (and the Dyane and Ami) engines is to be found in a small box behind the cooling fan under the oil cooler. The cooling fan is behind the bonnet grille. These components are at the other end of the engine to the flywheel and are quite accessible.
I preferred to set the breaker with a dwell meter which meant not dawdling as the fan-less engine was not being cooled while it was running. I wouldn't describe it as a "devil of a job" to set up; everything was visible and accessible. The real bitch was riving the cooling fan off its taper to allow access to the points box.
Thanks for listening; I'm off back into hibernation for another year or two.
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>> Thanks for listening; I'm off back into hibernation for another year or two.
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I thought we hadn't heard from you for a while. What do you do, stick your nose out of the door for some fresh air every couple of years and then scuttle back into the box again?
Anyway, nice to hear from you, keep well.
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Hello there hawkeye ... To be purrfectly honest, I never even attempted to tune a 2CV in my 14 years on the road.
I used to work with a chap called Vic Cade, who was had the Hometune franchise for a large part of SE & E London. He trained me up in the black art of car engine tuning back in 1978. He used to let me loose on the easy stuff to begin with, such as the Austin 1300/Escort, Viva etc. He would do the difficult stuff and it actually took me a good couple of years to really get to grips with V8's & TC's.
After 14 years at the game I could handle anything from a fiat 500 to a RR, all in a days work really,
but the good ole Citroen deux chevaux and I never did manage to cross swords!
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"The thing that looks dodgy to me is that only the first photo has the car with the suspension in normal road-going mode. All the others show it with the suspension raised as if to negotiate a ploughed field."
Not sure about that AC; think you may have it wrong way round???
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>> think you may have it wrong way round???
No.
It's possible though that the first picture, with proud owner, shows the car in parked, power-off mode with the suspension completely collapsed. And I suppose it's also possible that it can be set higher than it is in the other pix for negotiating really rough ground. But it's fairly well up, higher than one would want for road driving. There's an optimum setting for that, which minimizes wear on drive shafts and their universal joints.
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Wish I'd had a spare £62,000 - Old Navy
