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Thread Author: Crankcase Replies: 19

 The EVs keep on coming - Crankcase
Yes yes, yet another EV is revealed. Called the Sonos.

Executive summary if you don't want to watch the video:


Projected 250 mile range

Concept car now, but "delivery of the actual cars by the end of 2019"

You charge it normally, but it's also covered in solar panels which give it "about another 18 miles a day range" while it's just sitting about

You can plug in domestic electrical kit if you want to

Can tow

Can put power back to the grid

Has a weird moss in a box air filter...

Interestingly flexible load space/seating

Scratched the door mirror? You can 3D print parts for free.

"Ideal" for car sharing in cities, as it charges itself a bit in the street from the solar cells while waiting for the next person who is going to drive it ten miles and park it again, then it resumes charging.

Anyway, whether this thing or some variant of it ever comes to market remains to be seen, but there's some interesting ideas there.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLZKdkgB85k



 The EVs keep on coming - smokie
Interesting, thanks. I wonder if it will actually ever go into production though?
 The EVs keep on coming - sherlock47
Pre-order now.
sonomotors.com/preorder.html/

Latest specs
sonomotors.com/sion.html/

 The EVs keep on coming - CGNorwich
Solar panels are redundant

It will never see the light of day.
 The EVs keep on coming - Crankcase
I see the price, not mentioned in the video, is on their website. 16K euros plus battery.

I guess the battery might be about £7000.

16k euros for the chassis is about £14000, so that's £21000 ish total.

If you then got the UK government grant of £3500 you'd therefore be at about £17500, which is a very attractive price in the EV world indeed.

Assuming it ever happens and works as described.
 The EVs keep on coming - Shiny
The solar panels are just stickers on a glass roof and on the doors.
Weird - how mock is this mock-up?
 The EVs keep on coming - Lygonos
Looks crap.

Fail.

www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/97043/volkswagen-id-neo-new-spy-shots-of-vws-2019-electric-hatch

Looks a bit like a mid-2000s Honda Civic shape.

Not fail.
 The EVs keep on coming - zippy
>> Looks a bit like a mid-2000s Honda Civic shape.
>>
>> Not fail.


Don't like the paint job!

Why is it RWD!?
Last edited by: VxFan on Tue 12 Feb 19 at 02:05
 The EVs keep on coming - sooty123
I assume that they are going to change the looks before going on sale?

Ford did some research on solar panels they couldn't make the numbers add up with regard to getting any reasonable amount of range even if the whole car was covered in them.
 The EVs keep on coming - Lygonos
>> Why is it RWD!?

Makes sense. FWD is only prevalent with ICE because of superior packaging.

EVs don't need that - no propshaft, no big radiator, easier to manage weight distribution with a big flat heavy battery under the floorpan.

The weakest part of my car dynamically is it being FWD.

If it was RWD it could handle the power far better.
Last edited by: Lygonos on Mon 11 Feb 19 at 22:40
 The EVs keep on coming - zippy
Doesn't FWD have better performance in snow?
 The EVs keep on coming - Lygonos
>>Doesn't FWD have better performance in snow?

If all the weight is over the front, sure.
 The EVs keep on coming - sooty123
www.autoexpress.co.uk/mg/zs/105257/new-all-electric-mg-ezs-to-arrive-this-autumn

And another one, almost too cheap though?
 The EVs keep on coming - Crankcase
If it looks too good to be true..

£12495, 266 miles, 80% recharge in 30 minutes.

Seems... unlikely.
 The EVs keep on coming - sooty123
That's what I thought but if they are on sale in the autumn it shouldn't be too long before they are on test in the press.
 The EVs keep on coming - Zero
Since the MG name disappeared out of the Uk it has a new reputation of over promising and under delivering. (actually maybe that not a new concept for MG)
 The EVs keep on coming - Runfer D'Hills
>> >>Doesn't FWD have better performance in snow?
>>
>> If all the weight is over the front, sure.

Hmm, if you're referring to moving off from rest, then FWD does have an initial traction advantage, once over 5mph and rolling though, RWD is much easier to control in slippery conditions. In my humble opinion and experience anyway.
 The EVs keep on coming - Zero

>> Hmm, if you're referring to moving off from rest, then FWD does have an initial
>> traction advantage, once over 5mph and rolling though, RWD is much easier to control in
>> slippery conditions. In my humble opinion and experience anyway.

I'll take FWD over RWD in snow every day of the week at whatever speed. But then, in my case its a mute point. Did i ever show you the vid of the BMW powering up a Derbyshire hill in the height of the BfTE?
 The EVs keep on coming - CGNorwich
Moot
 The EVs keep on coming - Roger.
>> Moot>>

From Old English - a MOOT, referring to a meeting of people, mostly for the resolution of disputes between neighbours.

The Viking equivalent, I have read, was known as a "THING".

(cv The Longs Ships, by Frans G. Bengtsson- a favourite book of mine and nothing like the eponymous film, which was utter garbage.)
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