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 Uber 'lose' licence in London - No FM2R
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50544283
 Uber 'lose' licence in London - Duncan
"The firm says it will appeal against the decision and can continue to operate during that process."

I think it would be a shame if they did disappear. Why they can't/won't put their house in order, I don't know.

I would like to see an alternative to the dinosaur like black cab trade. Why shouldn't we be able to call up a car using a smart phone app?
 Uber 'lose' licence in London - Bromptonaut
>> Why shouldn't we be able to call up a car using a smart phone app?

I'm pretty sure there are apps to call black cabs in London. Same locally with cabs and private hire.

Issue with Uber seems to be their inability to put house in order. Haven't looked at BBC report but Guardian website suggests several thousand rides where there was no insurance. Drivers swapping cars/permits and allowing people who wouldn't pass CRB type checks to drive.
 Uber 'lose' licence in London - Zero

>> Issue with Uber seems to be their inability to put house in order. Haven't looked
>> at BBC report but Guardian website suggests several thousand rides where there was no insurance.
>> Drivers swapping cars/permits and allowing people who wouldn't pass CRB type checks to drive.

Over 14,000 of them, while they were still under their probation period having been accused of the same before.

UBER is a thoroughly disreputable company and any company that develops an internal app (Greyball) to bypass regulatory checking needs to be put out of business.

The Uber concept in itself is not an issue and is a good thing, its just that Uber is unfit to operate it.
 Uber 'lose' licence in London - CGNorwich
I hate travelling by taxi. Definitely the last choice as far as I am concerned. In London I would choose walking, tube, bus, taxi in that order. It’s not the cost either, just dislike the whole taxi experience
 Uber 'lose' licence in London - Zero
>> I hate travelling by taxi. Definitely the last choice as far as I am concerned.

Oh good Lord, traveling around london by Black Cab is the ultimate way to go, you can call it on the side of the street, and have it drop you inches away from where you need to be, Busses, Tube cant do that, For cross london speed however, its the tube, but that is without doubt the most unpleasant form of transport other than walking on hot coals,
 Uber 'lose' licence in London - CGNorwich
you can call it on the side of the street, and have it drop you inches away from where you need to be

Anything up to a couple of mile is walkable and infinitely preferable to putting up with views of a cab driver in a vehicle smelling of air freshener, disinfectant and aftershave.
 Uber 'lose' licence in London - neiltoo
View of the situation from a site which doesn't follow the Guardian party line:


" Sadiq Khan has dangled red meat to the unions over Uber since he became Mayor. The ban this morning was the second time the popular ride app service has been whacked by him. Why, you might ask, is Sadiq so keen to inconvenience the millions of Londoners – and potential voters – who use and enjoy the Uber app?

Electoral Commission records show that in 2015, Sadiq received almost £100,000 from three anti-Uber trade unions.
GMB: £20,000
TSSA: £15,000
Unite: £60,000

All three unions welcomed the decision today, they have been campaigning against new entrants into the taxi market for years. Limiting competition for taxis in London might hurt consumers, on the other hand it helps these powerful unions who are busily recruiting London cabbies to their ranks. Sadiq is paying them back ahead of passing the hat around next year for donations when he seeks re-election.

Sadiq has also burdened Uber with conditions attached to the Private-Hire Operators licence to which other operators are not being held. The last Uber London licence had 20 regulatory requirements, whereas other app based operators have no more than 9. Sadiq is singling out Uber for political reasons…"



License was withdrawn 2years ago, but magistrates held the cancellation for two years to let Uber correct the problems.
They're appealing again, and can operate until the appeal is heard.

I'm a long way from London, so I don't know what the frequency of issues is - is it significant.
It seems to me that the London minicab system doesn't work as well as the Private Hire licensing system elsewhere - again not based on a thorough experience in the capital.

 Uber 'lose' licence in London - Zero
>> Sadiq has also burdened Uber with conditions attached to the Private-Hire Operators licence to which
>> other operators are not being held. The last Uber London licence had 20 regulatory requirements,
>> whereas other app based operators have no more than 9. Sadiq is singling out Uber
>> for political reasons…"

Because they have been found to be non compliant with little oversight in very many ways.

The fact there are so many non black cab taxi services in London should show that the (lets admit it in the scheme of things very small) sums of money were of no consequence.
Last edited by: Zero on Mon 25 Nov 19 at 16:47
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