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Last edited by: VxFan on Wed 14 Mar 12 at 21:32
       
 Unusual Sightings Volume 15 - Jetski
Having lunch yesterday at my daughter's pub, three yellow 11 reg. three wheelers pull in.
They were open cockpit with handlebar steering, two wheels at the front and the rear drive looked as if it was taken from a twist and go scooter. Decals on the side stating guided self drive hire and there were four speakers let into the bodywork so I guess you get a running commentry while you hold up the Stratford on Avon traffic.
       
 Unusual Sightings Volume 15 - bathtub tom
>>three yellow 11 reg. three wheelers pull in.

Like this? tinyurl.com/c2o76lo

Seen in Barcelona a couple of years ago.
Last edited by: bathtub tom on Mon 21 Nov 11 at 16:17
       
 Unusual Sightings Volume 15 - Jetski
Spot on Bathtub, I think the make on the tax disc was Bullet.
       
 Unusual Sightings Volume 15 - bathtub tom
>>There's a tidy Vanden Plas 1300 on UK plates with collapsed suspension

I saw a home-made hydrolastic pump made from a brake master cylinder. Supposed to be quite easy to knock up. The problem with those things was the hydrolastic units used to spring a leak - the only solution was replacement. The pivot bushes used to collapse as well, a metalastic jobby - I broke my thumb changing one.

Is that a Dauphine behind?
       
 Unusual Sightings Volume 15 - Mike Hannon
>>Is that a Dauphine behind?<<

Yes. Survivors aren't that common over here. A bit like Citroen GSs or Renault 14s, 20s and 30s.
The guy has lots of interesting stuff lying around including a rather nice, tidy, Lancia Thema. I always liked them and they were a nice drive. Every week I pass a nice looking white Thema Turbo parked beside the road on the outskirts of Limoges. I know from experience that really was a tasty motor.
       
 Unusual Sightings Volume 15 - Armel Coussine
>> Thema Turbo parked beside the road on the outskirts of Limoges. I know from experience that really was a tasty motor.

The one I couldn't help fancying was the 8/32, with a yowling peaky Ferrari V8 and front wheel drive.

Just the thing for icy winter roads. Or any roads actually.
       
 Unusual Sightings Volume 15 - bathtub tom
Rover 110 (P4). Parked outside an industrial unit, so I'd guess it's a daily driver as it wouldn't last long if left overnight there.

At nearly fifty years old that's got to be older than some of the 'youngsters' here.
       
 Unusual Sightings Volume 15 - Ted

Went to MOT the Vitara this morning and one of these was parked on the rollers.

tinyurl.com/7j2xtta

N reg, same colour. Honda Odyssey. Looked unmarked. Much nicer looking, to my eye, than the 2012 model........too ' gobby ' .

First test for me since my man retired after 15 yrs there. I've met the new lad before, nice Pakistanley kid called Hameed. I was a little apprehensive but he was fine and gave me a good ' trade ' ticket. Asked at the end if I wanted a pass with a couple of advisories or a fail....no-brainer really. Doing the daughter's Puma later in the week after cambelt replacement.

Ted
       
 Unusual Sightings Volume 15 - RattleandSmoke
Just shows you want goes on though, no doubt if that was a slightly less reputable back street garage they would have asked for the fail!.

       
 Unusual Sightings Volume 15 - henry k
In the Esher area , a PORSCHE CARRERA GT
£300K + is a lot of money but a nice looking bit of engineering.
An autotrader advert says .... only 49 UK Cars and 1270 Worldwide so a pretty unusual sighting.
       
 Unusual Sightings Volume 15 - Armel Coussine
>> PORSCHE CARRERA GT

Another damn supercar...

I noticed a couple of Caymans on a flying visit to London the other night. They are quite pretty cars to my eye, perhaps the best-looking current Porsche model. They have a delicacy reminiscent of the nice little US Speedster.

Both were driven however with extreme, conservative caution. Both got in my way unnecessarily. But then we know that a lot of people don't deserve the cars they drive. If cars had feelings a lot of them would be blushing half the time.
       
 Rare vehicle - J Bonington Jagworth
Sorry - couldn't resist...

www.newsbiscuit.com/2011/11/28/huge-interest-at-rare-auction-of-range-rover-without-personalised-number-plate/
       
 Rare vehicle - idle_chatterer
Pagani Zonda F

Exited Hopewell Centre car park - surprised it managed the ramps and speed humps tbh as the ride height isn't exactly 'high', turned left into crawling traffic jam and probably managed 2kmh for the next 10 minutes...... Sounded lovely though. Looked surprisingly elegant in a metallic orange colour.
       
 Rare vehicle - TeeCee
Ramps and speed humps? Other obstructions to supercar enjoyment exist too.

I once, one bright summer's day, followed a very nice Ferrari Testarossa convertible from Eastcote to Pinner. On arrival he realised he'd gone the wrong way and went to sling a U-turn around the mini roundabout.

This resulted in a twenty-point turn while everyone sat and fumed at him. I've seen supertankers with a better turning circle......
       
 Rare vehicle - Dave_
A Volkswagen Up! in red, doing a good 90mph down the M3 near Winchester this morning. Wolfsburg registered, with "Up" included in the plate (WOB:UP 645).

Also seen half a dozen Mercedes SLS AMGs this week, but then I have been to three Merc dealerships :)
Last edited by: Dave_TDCi on Thu 1 Dec 11 at 15:53
       
 Bizzys busy today - Runfer D'Hills
I was in Liverpool today. Coming out from the Albert Dock area towards Speke just about 2.00, I was stopped along with other seemingly random vehicles for a drink drive check. Part of their Christmas campaign apparently. Lots of police involved, maybe a dozen.

I must have passed the attitude test because they didn't actually breathalyse me. I was of course a bit taken aback at being pulled but I didn't really mind. The WPC who interviewed me ( if you're still allowed to call them that ) was actually a delightful blonde scouse lass who really suited her uniform so it wasn't too much of an effort to chat to her for a few minutes.

I hope they catch some. Can't be doing with drink drivers.
       
 Bizzys busy today - Dave_
>> a delightful blonde scouse lass who really suited her uniform

Nice buttons, I believe the expression is... ;)
      1  
 Holden Commodore - franfran
I was driving through Guildford a few days ago (Guildford in New South Wales that is!) and found myself behind a yellow VL Holden Commodore. Nothing really rare or unusual about that, but this one was in brand new condition and looked as if it had just been driven out of a new car showroom. Given that the VL was produced in the late 1980s, it made me feel like I was stuck in a time warp....
       
 Holden Commodore - R.P.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Commodore
       
 Holden Commodore - Zero
Guy round the conrer from me has a NSW registered VL or VN. Hard to tell them apart
       
 Sunbeam Stiletto - Zero
How about this little beauty then

Spotted in one of the local shopping centre car parks, spoke to the owner He has TWO!

s606.photobucket.com/albums/tt148/know_wun/Sunbeam%20Stiletto/



Last edited by: VxFan on Wed 14 Dec 11 at 18:50
       
 Sunbeam Stiletto - Fenlander
Cracking little car as far as it goes... but shame it's been messed about.

Looks better back in 2007 without the changed rear number plate, chin spoiler and spots. Minilites look OK but what on earth are the seats he's fitted... look like Triumph Dolomite ones.

forum.theimpclub.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=7082
       
 Sunbeam Stiletto - R.P.
As I kid I always had a fascination for instruments, their layout and design.......

I always thought these had lovely instruments - I think they still look stylishly classic, and not out of place in a modern car.
       
 Sunbeam Stiletto - Zero
>> As I kid I always had a fascination for instruments, their layout and design.......

welcome to the Forum Dr Mengele
       
 Sunbeam Stiletto - Hard Cheese

These were great instruments of the same era ...

www.miniguitars.com/acatalog/beatles_set_fs.jpg

... er I mean ...

www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C270267

First fitted to the Escort GT is '68/'69.


       
 Sunbeam Stiletto - Dog
>>How about this little beauty then<<

I tuned plenty of those, twin Strombergs IIRC, I'd get gassed (CO) by the exhaust while working at the rear,

Same with VeeDubs etc.. :(
       
 Sunbeam Stiletto - Ted

New neighbour, about 4 houses up, has one...all road legal and used.

Except it isn't, it's a Singer Chamois coupe/fastback. Must be a rarity.
Needless to say, we've become buddies !

Ted

       
 Sunbeam Stiletto - RattleandSmoke
I have a picture of that car Ted, he used live on the road just next to the Cricket Ground, the road ends in South (sure you know where I mean).

Took a picture of that singer a few years back, always smile when see it :)

       
 Sunbeam Stiletto - Dog
Was it the Stiletto or the Chamois that had the twin carbs Ted, my brain isn't as good as yours :)

May even have been the Sport.
Last edited by: Dog on Wed 14 Dec 11 at 21:32
       
 Sunbeam Stiletto - Bromptonaut
>> Was it the Stiletto or the Chamois that had the twin carbs Ted, my brain
>> isn't as good as yours :)
>>
>> May even have been the Sport.

This site suggests the Chamois or Sunbeam Imp were available with the twin carbs etc.

www.imps4ever.info/family/sport.html

Stilleto was a notchback otherwise sols as the Hillman Californian?
       
 Sunbeam Stiletto - Ted
>> >> Was it the Stiletto or the Chamois that had the twin carbs Ted, my
>> brain
>> >> isn't as good as yours :)

Not sure, my brain no better !
Never seen under bonnet of his car. I could have told you earlier this evening as he and his wife and baby arrived at the front door and relieved me of a bottle of white wine while SWM cuddled the nipper. Lovely young couple......nice to think they want to spend some time with us oldies !

Ted
       
 Sunbeam Stiletto - borasport
First car I ever had was a Chammy, and that didn't have twin carbs, I can assure you !

easiest clutch removal in the world -
1 disconnect engine electrics - ht leads, lt to dizzy & water temp sensor was about it IIRC
2 chock engine & rear crossmember
3 undo two bolts on rear crossmember
4 undo bellhousing nuts
5 wheel car away from chocked up engine

Of course, rolling car back onto engine took a little bit more care
       
 Sunbeam Stiletto - borasport
And I struggle with the idea of it not rusting - mine was rusting back in 1975......
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Dave_
In quick succession today I saw a 458 Italia in red, a white Lamborghini Aventador (parked), and a matt black over orange Maybach on diplomatic plates.

I was in Mayfair though, where these things are fairly normal. I'd just left a RR Evoque at the Grosvenor House hotel where they were arranging to take it up in the lift...
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Alastairw
A Mini pickup. R registered, so about 35 years old. Must have had some restoration, as it seemed rust free.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Harleyman
>> A Mini pickup. R registered, so about 35 years old. Must have had some restoration,
>> as it seemed rust free.
>>

More than some. Minis rotted badly enough without putting a water-trough behind the driver's seat! Have you seen the prices those things are up for on the 'bay?
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Dave_
Topical one, this: Two recovery trucks heading north on the M1 this morning, each towing a London bendy bus with the steering axle raised off the road.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - IJWS14
Santa Claus driving an (empty) flatbed lorry - reindeer sick?
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - franfran
I was driving down The Old Windsor road a few days ago, heading towards Seven Hills. I would have been doing about 80-85 kmh (the speed limit on that stretch of road is 80) and was passed by a Hillman Imp (!) that must have been doing at least 90 kmh. It was very neat and tidy and was white with a red flash down the side.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Dog
Could it have been a Hillman GT (developed by Chrysler Australia from the Singer Chamois Sport and released in April 1967, it was never badged nor officially referred to as the Hillman Imp GT)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillman_Imp
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - franfran
It just looked like an ordinary Hillman Imp - but, then again, according to the Wikipedia article, there weren't any visible differences anyway. When I stopped at the next lights to turn right, it disappeared rapidly into the distance.....
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Dog
It was possibly a GT with sport camshaft and twin Stromberg carburettors ~

www.sa.hillman.org.au/CoatsworthGT.htm
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - L'escargot
>> ........... passed by a Hillman Imp (!) that must have
>> been doing at least 90 kmh.

That's only a mere 56 mph. The manufacturer's quoted top speed was 78 mph.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Stuu
Renault Chamade - in white and tatty as an old Renault only can be. Apparently 92 left on the road.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - franfran
And I saw a Renault 8 parked up someone's driveway on the weekend. It looked like it hadn't moved for some time...
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - bathtub tom
MX5 with the registration nnn MXV.

I had to explain to the other three car occupants 'V' is Roman numeral 5!

I liked it.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Ted

Sadly, the reg.no. MX 5 is on a......Porsche Caymen S !

Ted
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - TeeCee
>>
>> Sadly, the reg.no. MX 5 is on a......Porsche Caymen S !
>>

I guess the owner wishes he'd bought a convertible.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Ted

This probably won't mean anything to our Southern pals, but it does run on the road......

An early Metrolink tram, No 1003, in the new yellow and grey livery. Came in from Media City UK while I was waiting for my tram home at Cornbrook today.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1LdtWM0HAY

These are all being phased out and I've never seen one in any colour other than light blue/grey.
Perhaps a one-off to see how the livery suited the earlier shape. Still had it's red Christmas shopping adverts on the side.

Ted
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Mike Hannon
Batting along at 65mph on the autoroute between Nice and Monaco yesterday, a Hillman Imp!
I laughed so much I nearly ran off the road!
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - franfran
Saw three Chevrolets today: two as wedding cars - a 1957 Chevy and a 1960s one (Bel-Air? - the one with tailfins that look like bat wings). Also saw a Corvette later in the day. In the morning I saw an early E type jaguar at Five Dock and a couple of hours later I saw the same car at Wentworthville shops - about a 35 minute drive away from where I saw it earlier. Didn't see any speeding Hillman Imps this time though....
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - franfran
Speaking of Chevrolets, yesterday I saw a bright yellow (1940s I think) Chevrolet bus (!) hot rod.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Falkirk Bairn
L ref (1973) Van Den Plas 1100 - dark green and surprisingly rust free - on the surface at least.

Reminded me of my next door neighbour and his 1100 (1975) - he of the STEEP driveway.
Parked the car and was halfway to the front door when his car overtook him........demolished the front of the car and the garage door.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - franfran
We were heading west along Victoria Road at Ryde last night and saw a late 1930s (?) Packard heading in the other direction.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Old Navy
A Dacia Logan 1.5dci estate car. The badge on the back said "Logan by Renault" which it should as it was on French plates. :-)
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Mike Hannon
Very popular here I think. I have a friend with one. I still don't understand why Renault sell them.
Cars in Monaco are as mad as ever. I saw one of those Smart-sized 'Aston Martins'. Why? and does the already butt ugly RR Phantom need a gold plated radiator grille?
I see the Tesla showroom is gone so I guess the salesman sits and reads the paper all day at home now.
Fashions seem to change though. A few years ago it was all Bentleys, then Astons, now it's Maseratis. The high profile old car dealer has gone and I couldn't see the Lambo dealer.
Meanwhile, my friend has a Bulgarian builder in and when he saw the Prelude he said - in perfect French - I had one of those! He now drives a Merc...
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - rtj70
>> I saw one of those Smart-sized 'Aston Martins'. Why?

To get average emissions down for Aston Martin. They didn't have to worry about this when part of Ford.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - swiss tony
>> >> I saw one of those Smart-sized 'Aston Martins'. Why?
>>
>> To get average emissions down for Aston Martin. They didn't have to worry about this
>> when part of Ford.
>>
Exactly the same reason as Daimler-Benz have Smart cars.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Mike Hannon
Fine for the companies, sad for the punters.
I was up on the Col de Turini today, having promised to take pix of Loeb, etc, for my son. Didn't do much for me but the weather was nice and I saw a lovely Cossie RS500 in Sospel.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Mike Hannon
Incidentally, today I saw a newspaper advert for the Citroen DS4, boasting that it has just been voted 'European Gay Car of the Year'.
Sometimes I think I'm losing my grip on reality...
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - R.P.
I think that's quite funny though Mike. A friend of mine who is gay bought himself a powder pink Fiat 500 - asking me what I thought of his purchase....I must have hesitated before answering and he filled in the blank which summed it up perfectly........
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Focusless
Austin 7 in the car park in Woodley. It looked tiny.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Mike Hannon
I know I keep harping on about this but...
This afternoon in Monte Carlo, blocking the bus stop on the edge of Casino Square, a blue/grey metallic two-tone with gold fittings RR Phantom convertible. What must these people be like? meanwhile,in the real world, I've seen Lancia Beta saloon, Gamma coupe and Fulvia HF, an Alfa Guilia saloon unknown in the UK and, last Sunday morning just around the corner from here, a guy about my age and his wife fettling an MGB. Kind of restores your faith a bit.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Mike Hannon
Guy picking up his kids from school this afternoon in Menton (not Monaco) in a rather scruffy Series 3 V12 E-type coupe. Way to go!
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Dave_
At the other end of the scale of desirability, I saw a 1989 Skoda Estelle 4-door in north Leicester this afternoon. It was taxed, but looked a good 10 years past its use-by date.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Old Navy
A MK3 Cortina estate on an X suffix plate, Two tone blue over silver and a 2.0 Crusader badge on the back. It seemed to be in good condition (I was driving behind it).
Last edited by: Old Navy on Sat 11 Feb 12 at 18:58
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - swiss tony
>> A MK3 Cortina estate on an X suffix plate, Two tone blue over silver and
>> a 2.0 Crusader badge on the back. It seemed to be in good condition (I
>> was driving behind it).
>>

That would have been a Cortina 80 (Mk5)
Mk3 70-76
Mk4 76-80
80 80-82
Sierra 82-
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Old Navy
I only said MK3, (I edited out the ?) because my BiL has a MK3 estate and it looked similar. :-)
Last edited by: Old Navy on Sat 11 Feb 12 at 21:32
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - swiss tony
>> I only said MK3, (I edited out the ?) because my BiL has a MK3
>> estate and it looked similar. :-)
>>
They were very similar!
IIRC the tailgates were based on the same pressing, with some slight mods...
BTW the Mk4 and 5 estates WERE the same, where as the saloons had the roof raised by an inch or so.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Old Navy
Thanks swiss, my BiL's MK3 is an ex company car of his, it has been his project to get it back on the road for at least 20 years or so. :-)
Last edited by: Old Navy on Sat 11 Feb 12 at 21:54
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - swiss tony
>> Thanks swiss, my BiL's MK3 is an ex company car of his, it has been
>> his project to get it back on the road for at least 20 years or
>> so. :-)
>>
Your welcome.
Lets hope he gets it completed soon - I know personally how these projects can drag on......
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Runfer D'Hills
Not so much an unusual vehicle but an unusual vehicle related incident. This evening on the M6 northbound about Coventry-ish. Lane one closed. Mk1 Picasso parked on the hard shoulder. Puzzled looking driver standing by it. Picasso's nearside taillight cluster completely missing but apparently no other damage to the car.

Object causing the blockage was a taillight cluster sized fire in the middle of lane one. Proper flames, like a little bonfire.

Work that one out. I couldn't. To all intents and purposes it looked like the tail light unit had burst into flames and fallen out onto the carriageway. Followed by the driver pulling over to the side.

Last edited by: Humph D'Bout on Tue 21 Feb 12 at 22:03
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Kevin
>Work that one out. I couldn't.

Bad ammunition?
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Dog
Could have been spontaneous combustion, or buried ballistics left over from the Blitzkrieg on Coventry in WW2.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Zero
I think it was a badly calibrated police laser speed gun....
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Kevin
>I think it was a badly calibrated police laser speed gun....

Why would they be aiming it at a Mk1 Picasso though?
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Zero
>> >I think it was a badly calibrated police laser speed gun....
>>
>> Why would they be aiming it at a Mk1 Picasso though?

Cant hit the side of a barn door most of them..
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Mr PDA
More likely a sat nav backfire I'd have said.

       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - franfran
This morning on the way to work I saw a light blue Datsun Fair Lady on a car trailer. After work I saw a beige and white Studebaker Lark, a red Triumph Spitfire and a blue FIAT 500

I got a photo of the FIAT: farm8.staticflickr.com/7197/6779423900_96685f4b1d_b.jpg
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - ToMoCo
That FIAT looks like a cracking example.

I passed a mint 'c' reg (1986?) XR4x4 earlier.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - bathtub tom
Welcome back franfran, I hope you're well, or have you just been sunning yourself for the past month?

Not that we're jealous because it's been -10C.
Last edited by: bathtub tom on Fri 24 Feb 12 at 14:34
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - henry k
A pavement warrior on his mobility scooter but in the road .
This one was happily trolling along on a bus route in the Wimbledon area.
The gent wearing a bowler hat and sporting a full mastouche seemed to be quite happy.
Not sure if his Staffordshire terrier was so happy struggling to keep up in the gap between the boss and the gutter.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - franfran
Hi all. I didn't think I had been away for long, but maybe I was. I did get quite a bit of sun yesterday, but I wasn't at the beach - I was out in the garden, and it was 31c, but it felt hotter. It reached 30c today but by Wednesday it should be back in the mid 20s. It's been a rather wet summer though, with showers on and off and a few very heavy downpours. It started raining today but only lasted a few minutes.

I only saw two cars worth mentioning today (well, there were three but I'm not sure what sort of Ferrari the third one was, so I won't mention it) - a red Corvette convertible (probably mid to late 1960s) and a yellow Morris Minor utility.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - franfran
Here's some of what I've seen over the last few weeks:

farm8.staticflickr.com/7141/6775460123_4dc3e82774_b.jpg

farm8.staticflickr.com/7025/6775459685_3d495d0fd7_b.jpg

farm8.staticflickr.com/7013/6775459279_4e916224db_b.jpg
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Armel Coussine
20080422133614Fichier.pps

Failed attempt to forward pix of pretty old cars sent to me by a friend. Damn!
Last edited by: Armel Coussine on Sun 26 Feb 12 at 16:32
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Armel Coussine
Just went to collect a granddaughter from ballet class in a nearby small town. On the way out of the small town, noticed an Austin A30 in the rv mirror. Said to the granddaughter: look, an A30, see how small it looks. She turned round briefly and went, Yeah yeah, there's a blue car behind it.

There was, too, I then noticed. A Type 35 Bugatti. Without mudguards! Illegal, hooray! While I was telling the nipper all this, it nipped past the A30 and started to bear down on us. A good overtaking place was just ahead, and I signalled left, opened the window and kept well in. I knew I didn't need to slow down. It immediately howled past in a glorious, ear-shattering blast of sound and vanished down the road with a cheery wave from the leather-jacketed lucky so-and-so at the wheel. Yeee-HAH!

The granddaughter complained that it had hurt her ears. But when I told her what it might well be worth she said snootily that in that case she wouldn't mind going in it. Flibbertigibbet.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - bathtub tom
>>Without mudguards! Illegal

I used to think that, but apparently if it's old enough and not fitted on the original spec then it seems it's OK.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Armel Coussine
>> if it's old enough and not fitted on the original spec then it seems it's OK.

May be a recent reform in response to lobbying by the very rich owners of such cars. And if so, very sensible. A friend who used to live in those parts once saw John Cobb's open-wheeled Brooklands Napier-Railton (which we both saw last week in the Brooklands museum), an immense beast, visiting the Michelin HQ - a fine art deco building it is too - opposite Pelham Crescent at the posh end of the Fulham Road. That would have been in the fifties. And in the sixties racing mechanics used to drive pretty-illegal racing Jaguars and the like on the road, usually getting away with it.

Be that as it may, the Bugatti's exhaust was certainly illegal. But no sporting copper would dream of minding I like to think.

By the way: it may not have been a 35. But it was stark, small and went like the absolute clappers, a car 85 years old or so. Really cheered me up.
Last edited by: Armel Coussine on Sat 3 Mar 12 at 17:27
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - borasport
>> >> if it's old enough and not fitted on the original spec then it seems
>> it's OK.
>>
>> May be a recent reform in response to lobbying by the very rich owners of
>> such cars.

Naaa

Pretty much if it was legal when it was built, then it's legal, otherwise plod would be nicking everybody on the London to Brighton run - no seatbelts, no windscreen washer, no airbags, no high-level brake lights......
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - swiss tony
>> Pretty much if it was legal when it was built, then it's legal, otherwise plod
>> would be nicking everybody on the London to Brighton run - no seatbelts, no windscreen
>> washer, no airbags, no high-level brake lights......
>>
....no brakes.....
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Armel Coussine
>> ....no brakes.....

The better vintage sporting cars usually had pretty good brakes. But they needed regular proper servicing to keep them good. Disc brakes are to the rapid driver what the washing machine was to the enslaved housewife.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - TeeCee
>> The better vintage sporting cars usually had pretty good brakes.
>>

Depends on your definition of "vintage". You have to remember that having brakes on the front wheels is a fairly new-fangled idea. Early racers had drums on the rear only, usually mounted on a rear axle with chain drive to the rear wheels.

There's a good reason for this. Any kind of rod or direct cable (as opposed to Bowden cable) operated braking system is a nightmare to get to work through suspension.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Armel Coussine
>> Depends on your definition of "vintage".

Between 1914 and 1931 - basically, 1920s cars. You are right of course about the iffiness of mechanical (i.e. non-hydraulic) front brakes, operated in a variety of ways. The FX3 London taxi had front brakes operated through cranks and rods all the way, but various cable systems of different degrees of complexity were used throughout the twenties.

When in perfect adjustment, the brakes in sporting vintage cars were highly effective, as they needed to be. But with a bit of wear and corrosion drum brakes in general, and mechanical ones in particular, develop a tendency to pull or jink slightly on initial application. If the brakes were in generally good condition they would give proper, straight retardation once all the shoes were in contact with the drums. Anyone used to drum-braked cars knows this. It becomes second nature to apply the brakes, release them very briefly and then apply them steadily.

I was once driven in a chain-drive Frazer Nash with tiny little drums in the middles of its big spoked wheels, like motor-bike wheels really. Front brakes worked through a very dodgy-looking cable system. But with a sharp double application they worked extremely well, once anyway. They might not have been so good if allowed to get really hot though, something that often caused bad fade with drum brakes (hence the cooling fins on those of good cars).

Rolls-Royce (like the Metropolitan Carriage Office which dictated taxi design) was very traditionalist. My 1953 Bentley had hydraulic front drums and mechanical rears worked through cranks and rods. But its real problem was the mechanical servo borrowed from Hispano-Suiza, which worked through a friction clutch on the side of the gearbox. That was very expensive to fettle and maintain, and not really a DIY job. So my Bentley's brakes were a bit frightening sometimes.

Vacuum servo and disc brakes together are a revolutionary improvement. Without them we would all still be bimbling around at 50.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Dave_
Saw a very used-looking Citroën SM (with a non-dating "SM" numberplate) in south London yesterday. It was making good progress around a roundabout with the suspension allowing a quite remarkable angle of lean, comparable to a 2CV or AX being driven in anger.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Iffy
A VW Amarok.

Eh?

That's what I thought, it's a double cab pick-up which is on their commercial vehicle price list.

The one I saw looked OK in white.

www.volkswagen-vans.co.uk/amarok-range/amarok/overview/
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - henry k
A VW Amarok.
"The Volkswagen pick-up is the true embodiment of power intelligently applied."

Will the local builder agree?
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - Dave_
>> A VW Amarok.

>> Eh?

Yep, seen a few of those on my travels. There's a silver one parks on the same estate as a regular customer since last Autumn.
Last edited by: Dave_TDCi on Tue 13 Mar 12 at 21:20
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - -
>> >> A VW Amarok.
>>

Do they come with pedals like Fred Flintstones car so you can help the puny engine along in the hilly bits.
       
 Unusual Sightings - Volume 15 - bathtub tom
A 2CV with an extension out the back!

I caught a glance as I passed it parked at the side of the road. It looked like the roof line had been extended and the back dropped vertical so it retained its original length. A small, triangular window had been inserted into the extra side bodywork.
       
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