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Thread Author: WillDeBeest Replies: 41

 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - WillDeBeest
Didn't they do well? I've said elsewhere that I was disappointed by the first series of AtA, but it settled down nicely and this final series has been superb.

The finale was best of all, in the way it brought together elements we'd almost worked out for ourselves, and resolved them without resorting to introducing new information at the last minute. I won't mention details yet, in case people out there are still waiting to watch it, but it is an absolute treat.

Enough from me for now. What did others think?
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Zero
PoS
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Bigtee
Dci alex drake wow she's hot.!

Yes haven't they made something with gene hunt and sam tiler another series or something?
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - PeteW
First time I have ever applauded the tv at the end of this. The best ending anyone could have hoped for, and those actors deserve every award going. Sure leaves Lost with a lot to do on Monday morning to come anywhere close...
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Manatee
>>. I won't mention details yet, in case people out there are still waiting to watch it, but it is an absolute treat.

I watched it and I couldn't tell you what happened if I wanted to. Had they all been abducted by aliens it would have made as much sense to me. Maybe they were?

Normally Mrs M is on hand to explain what's going on (I think she makes it up), but she was out on a walk with the WI last night.
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Bigtee
I watched it and I couldn't tell you what happened if I wanted to. Had they all been abducted by aliens it would have made as much sense to me. Maybe they were?

Were they all sent to that time and place 1983 as in the betamax video clips of there former lifes show what happened to them?

At the end in the Railway i guess they went forward in time to the respective time?

If you have not watched it by now crack on we want to chat.!!
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Zero
if you haven watched it - tough

Gene hunt was, in effect, the arch angel gabriel. They were all dead, but couldnt come to terms with it. You either went to hell with the strange bloke with glasses (hence the going down in the lift bit) or you went to the heaven (the pub). Gene was there to guide you.

As I said, a POS. They couldnt get the cars or clothes right, and the music of the era was badly used.


 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Manatee
>>Gene hunt was, in effect, the arch angel gabriel

Ah. So it was an alligator. They're the ones I have trouble with.

 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Manatee
Though they seem not to have decided to make it an alligator until quite late in the story...

goo.gl/NvCj (actors talking on BBC website)
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Bigtee
They couldnt get the cars or clothes right, Which cars were wrong? newer than 83?
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - VxFan
>> They couldnt get the cars or clothes right, Which cars were wrong? newer than 83?

It was set in 1982. The Quattro wasn't introduced in the UK until 1983. It should have also been on a W plate, not a V.

Found this bit of blurb, not sure how much of it is true though

tinyurl.com/3xcknqk

Phil Glenister says the producers knew about the car continuity error, but that the only alternative was a clapped-out Metro, which wouldn't have enjoyed the same impact.

Audi Club car anoraks spotted another howler - the Quattro's JLY 75IV reg, which they point out belongs to a 1979 Datsun and the first quattro's were issued with W plates.


I know they said it was the last series ever, but I think they've left the door open for another series for the bloke who appeared at the end of last night's episode wanting to know what had happened to his office and where his Ipod had gone.
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Clk Sec
>>I know they said it was the last series ever, but I think they've left the door open for another series for the bloke who appeared at the end of last night's episode wanting to know what had happened to his office and where his Ipod had gone.

A certainty, I would say.
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Bigtee
Why not use all the same cast and just make an 80's cop show without this time travelling nonsense and it would be ace!
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - smokie
I agree with BigTee and have been saying the same to SWMBO since the start of the current series. But I don't really think it would have even been a good hard hitting 80s cop show a la Sweeney.

Something kept me with it to the end which takes some doing (not being a big fan of TV in general)
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - PeteW
>>I know they said it was the last series ever, but I think they've left the door open for another series for the bloke who appeared at the end of last night's episode wanting to know what had happened to his office and where his Ipod had gone.

No, no ,no . This of course represented the cyclical nature of Genes 'life' now. He's in a perpetual 5 year loop where he forgets his true self, and needs someone 'from the other side' to eventually get him to remember. And back to the start again with another transferee from Hyde....
Last edited by: Everest Pete on Sat 22 May 10 at 15:34
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Clk Sec
Another series within the next year or two I'll wager.
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - rtj70
I thought they said this was the last episode of Ashes to Ashes. The follow up series to Life on Mars. So if there is another series with Gene Hunt then if it's called something else... it's a new series and Ashes to Ashes finished.
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - swiss tony
>> >> They couldnt get the cars or clothes right, Which cars were wrong? newer than
>> 83?
>>
>> It was set in 1982. The Quattro wasn't introduced in the UK until 1983. It
>> should have also been on a W plate, not a V.

To me, the conclusion answers ALL the misplacements within the show.
OK the Quattro was 'wrong' so was the Cortina in 'Mars' (virtual pint to the 1st person with the correct reason that was wrong!)
I see it like this, few if any of the people, where in their 'own' time. (need to watch again to be sure who/what time period)
Gene looked like he was late 50's early 60's?
Shaz, mid 90's, Alex the present. Chris and Ray I need to rewatch as those 2 didn't click to me at all.
So the cars can also be slightly misplaced, as memory gets garbled upon death?

Well that theory works for me!
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Fenlander
>>> the Cortina in 'Mars' (virtual pint to the 1st person with the correct reason that was wrong!)

The car was supposed to be a '72 GXL but from the wood trim and velour interior it was a later ('74ish?)2000E with the GXL twin headlamps grafted on (2000E should have rectangular headlamps and I think often an auto gearbox).
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - swiss tony
>> >>> the Cortina in 'Mars' (virtual pint to the 1st person with the correct reason
>> that was wrong!)
>> The car was supposed to be a '72 GXL but from the wood trim and
>> velour interior it was a later ('74ish?)2000E

What ya having?
Close enough.
the biggest giveaway was the Mk4 dash, IIRC only used on the '75 model year (Mk4 came out in '76
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Fenlander
>>>What ya having?

Strangely another iced orange juice will be great just now.

I remember the 2000E well as Dad agreed a trade in of Mum's K-reg Escort 1300 Estate for a brand new metallic bronze 2000E auto in the Ford dealers.... I reckon it would have been an M reg?? I remember the very light coloured soft velour interior with the real wood dash and door cappings.... a big improvement over the high gloss plastic seats and so so fake vinyl wood of the GXL.

Just before the 2000E was due to be ready the salesman phoned and said he'd made a mistake on the model of our Escort and given a too high trade in... it would have to be reduced by a fair amount. The old chap said something along the lines of yes you have made a mistake... so I'm pulling out of the deal... left the dealer with the 2000E pre-registered.

Last edited by: Fenlander on Sun 23 May 10 at 22:53
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - -
You either went to hell with the strange bloke with
>> glasses (hence the going down in the lift bit) or you went to the heaven
>> (the pub). Gene was there to guide you.

The penny drops.

We watched it this evening and to be honest couldn't make head or tail of it until...thanks Zero your post has the ring of truth to it.

Have thoroughly enjoyed the series and to be honest can't take small timescale mistakes too seriously, i too hope they make another.
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Fullchat
Compulsive viewing and some original drama. Some corroboration here as to my thoughts on the end scenario which was more or less the ending a few office debates had alluded to.

I don't think there will be another series. Where the new guy entered the office at the end was just reinforcing the storyline in that Gene Hunt had stayed to continue his soul saving.

Cast your minds back a few episodes when some cop came down from Manchester and ended up laded on the floor, I think he got shot. Gene Hunt whispered something into his ear which spooked him. What could that have been and how would it have fitted into the scenario?

I am presuming that apart from Alex all had died and Alex didn't pull through and the part where they entered the pub was them entering Heaven?

Still think that some of the Quattro shots were not a real Quattro as the engine note did not sound authentic but towards the end it did. Maybe the Quattro survived and its clone was shot to pieces.
Last edited by: Fullchat on Sat 22 May 10 at 23:37
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - WillDeBeest
I'll have to check to be sure but Alex may not have been the only one who'd been taken back to the early 80s. Shaz's video seemed to show a street scene from the early 90s, featuring what I thought was an H-reg Sierra Sapphire, which would be too big an anachronism to have got in by accident. This may be why she seemed more receptive than the others to Alex's ideas. (I may find I imagined that bit, of course.)

As for the Devil using Betamax, perhaps we all secretly knew this and that's why it didn't catch on.

One of the creators, interviewed in the Guardian's TV Blog, insisted there will be no more Hunt on TV, but he hinted that a film might be possible. Whether it will feature Hunt in the Mercedes 190D whose brochure he was studying at the end remains to be seen.
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - teabelly
I thought the H reg white car in Shaz's scene was a volvo.... could have been mistaken.

 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Bigtee
H-reg Sierra Sapphire, Yes it was.......................
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Iffy
...H-reg Sierra Sapphire, Yes it was....

That's the first thing about this thread I understand.

Mine was an E-reg in pale green metallic.

First car I had with central locking and powered front windows.
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - WillDeBeest
I iPlayed it again and Teabelly is right: the H in Shaz's death scene is on a white Volvo; the grey Sierra is an F. But more telling still is that the soundtrack is by Oasis, which puts us in the mid-90s.
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Bigtee
Does it really matter if the cars are not quite exact spec and year no it does not aslong as the acting is correct and you can laugh your pants off thats all it's about.

 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Zero
Firstly, there can only be another series if you replace all the characters except Gene Hunt, because the others have all moved onto the afterlife from the limbo they were in.

Which is just as well really

This really was a pigs breakfast of a show, and only existed to try and cash in on the freshness of Life on Mars and try and prolong the character of Gene Hunt.

The writing was for the most part poor, clearly they had no idea of why the characters were there or what the ending would be untill much later in the show. There was no logical link to Life on Mars despite one of the lead characters trying to bring it in. The idea of trying to mix the sureal concept cobbled together at the end, with the comic book villainousness of Gene Hunt was desperate from the start and failed miserably.

The acting was as equally dire as the writing, with the exception of Philip Glenister as DCI Gene Hunt and Keeley Hawes as DI Alex Drake.

It could have been great, but failed on all counts.


 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Alastairw
>>Still think that some of the Quattro shots were not a real Quattro as the engine note did not sound authentic but towards the end it did. Maybe the Quattro survived and its clone was shot to pieces.

Apparently the original Quattro wouldn't oversteer enough for tv, so they converted it to RWD. Engine didnt sound 5 cylinder enough to me either.
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Snakey
A cracking end to a cracking series. Something a bit different and although I'd sort of guessed how it was going to end, I still enjoyed the finale.

Personally I couldn't give a bucket of kak how accurate the clothes or cars were,I'm not that retentive to notice, but it was nice to see the BBC producing something other than eastenders style brain-sludge programming.
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Alanovich
It wouldn't surprise me to learn that the Hunt character was inspired by the old Fast SHow "Monkfish" sketch, in his detective guise. "Oi, you, get yer knickers on! Tea, two sugars!"

I enjoyed the first series of Life on Mars initially, but grew bored once the novelty wore off (which as fairly thin in any case).

Dunno why people are going overboard about it. I find old Sweeney episodes far more entertaining if you're looking for a piggish 70s copper and some vintage vehicle thrills.
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - rtj70
Looks like Lost and Ashes to Ashes had similar endings/explanations ;-)
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - TheManWithNoName
we need a series where Gene Hunt gets propelled into 2010 and has to fit in with a far more politically correct world with high technology thrown in too.
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Snakey
>> we need a series where Gene Hunt gets propelled into 2010 and has to fit
>> in with a far more politically correct world with high technology thrown in too.
>>

Now that would be brilliant! Just imagine Gene dealing with bus lanes, speed cameras, plastic plod pcso's, and a world of Politically Correct working environments! No smoking in pubs, speed bumps - the list goes on!

 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Roger.
It was a good job that the TV reviewer in the No longer Torygraph was able to explain the ending 'cos I hadn't a clue!
I felt a bit cheated that I'd watched the series only to find all the characters were dead!
I like happy endings - at my age I need 'em!
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - BiggerBadderDave
"I like happy endings"

Then what you need is a full service massage
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Roger.
"Then what you need is a full service massage"
Doesn't work, I'm afraid :=(
 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - WillDeBeest
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 Ashes to Ashes: the conclusion - Roger.
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