Non-motoring > Problems or issues?	Miscellaneous
Thread Author: L'escargot	Replies: 35

New Thu 1 Aug 13 07:01   Problems or issues? - L'escargot

I wonder why problems have become issues. What was wrong with problems? Similarly, why have photographs become images? Who starts these fads? Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 07:46   Problems or issues? - sooty123

Same reason any words or language changes, people find a new word and use that. Reply to this message | Report message       1

New Thu 1 Aug 13 07:54   Problems or issues? - Old Navy

If I had a fault with my car the dealer could call it whatever they like, issue, feature, design defect, etc. I will consider it a problem until it is fixed and certainly treat it and them appropriately. Don't fall for waffle and bullshine. Last edited by: Old Navy on Thu 1 Aug 13 at 07:56 Reply to this message | Report message       1

New Thu 1 Aug 13 08:54   Problems or issues? - L'escargot

>> ............. people find a new word and use that. Just for the hell of it, it appears. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 08:59   Problems or issues? - Zero

>> >> ............. people find a new word and use that. >> >> Just for the hell of it, it appears. No, just to annoy you. The rest of us adapt. You need to think outside the box, a bit of blue sky thinking on your part would not go amiss. Reply to this message | Report message       1

New Thu 1 Aug 13 09:17   Problems or issues? - henry k

> You need to think outside the box, a bit of blue sky thinking on your part would not go amiss. >> ....going forward >> What future do I have ? Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 15:12   Problems or issues? - R.P.

a bit of blue sky thinking on your part would not go amiss. That could be a sunroof issue of course. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 15:14   Problems or issues? - Armel Coussine

>> a sunroof issue of course. Not the glass ceiling problem then? Surely they are related. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 15:18   Problems or issues? - R.P.

There's a Panorama programme in the making. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 2 Aug 13 12:53   Problems or issues? - BiggerBadderDave

"That could be a sunroof issue of course." The Lexus doesn't have a sunroof. It has a moonroof. Why? I have no idea. But if I try to lock the car when the sunroof is open it flashes 'Close the moonroof' Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 2 Aug 13 13:31   Problems or issues? - CGNorwich

Moonroof is the American term: "A sunroof is an operable metal panel in a car roof that slides back to let in light and air. A moonroof is a similar panel but the difference is it's glass and it can let light in even when closed. The term "moonroof" was coined by Ford in the 70s but is now used generically to describe glass panel inbuilt electric sunroofs in vehicles by all manufacturers." Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 09:09   Problems or issues? - sooty123

>> >> ............. people find a new word and use that. >> >> Just for the hell of it, it appears. >> As good a reason as any. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 07:51   Problems or issues? - smokie

When did a vogue become a fad? Oh, in the 19th century. dictionary.reference.com/browse/fad?s=t Just evolution of the language isn't it? Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 08:00   Problems or issues? - Zero

A problem is an issue when it becomes an issue. A photograph has always been called an image when its not on paper. I dont see why you have an issue with this, its no problem. Last edited by: Zero on Thu 1 Aug 13 at 08:00 Reply to this message | Report message       1

New Thu 1 Aug 13 08:39   Problems or issues? - Cliff Pope

An issue is something that needs consideration, but is not necessarily yet a problem. Reply to this message | Report message       1

New Thu 1 Aug 13 09:07   Problems or issues? - L'escargot

I'm going to say slink instead of mimse. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 09:13   Problems or issues? - CGNorwich

Who starts these fads? That chap Shakespeare for one. Here are some of the words first recorded in his works. Interestingly new-fangled is one of them. www.buzzfeed.com/lukelewis/words-you-didnt-realise-william-shakespeare-invented Change is part of language and indeed part of life. You can't stand Canute like in its path. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 09:17   Problems or issues? - L'escargot

>> You can't stand Canute like in its path. >> Slinkers get in my way when I'm in a hurry. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 09:18   Problems or issues? - Zero

What at your average speed of 28 mph? do me a favour. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 10:11   Problems or issues? - bathtub tom

Back in the days when I used to work some smart alec dreamt up the slogan 'we don't have problems, we have opportunities'. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 10:20   Problems or issues? - Zero

>> Back in the days when I used to work some smart alec dreamt up the >> slogan 'we don't have problems, we have opportunities'. Many people on here believe that to be true with respect to cars. They are convinced manufacturers build them to go wrong so we buy more cars. Reply to this message | Report message       1

New Thu 1 Aug 13 10:34   Problems or issues? - Alanovich

Pink used to mean yellow. I expect that, when some scruffy youths started using the new meaning, some grumpy old wotsit complained about it. It simply doesn't matter, so long as we all understand what's being said. And it appears even the OP does in the case he's outlined. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 10:36   Problems or issues? - Manatee

tissue n. a problem in Yorkshire Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 13:26   Problems or issues? - L'escargot

At meetings at work we used to play business buzzword bingo. www.businessbuzzwordbingo.com/ When I say "we" I mean the lower echelons, not the bosses. Last edited by: L'escargot on Thu 1 Aug 13 at 13:31 Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 13:53   Problems or issues? - Armel Coussine

>> buzzword bingo 'Let's chuck this on the floor and see if the cat licks it up.' I always liked that one, but have to confess I never heard it used in anger. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 13:56   Problems or issues? - No FM2R

To me problems and issues have different meanings. If I'm working and somebody tells me that there are loads of problems that somehow seems negative and defeatist to me. Whereas if they are telling me that there are loads of issues, that seems much less so, and simply a statement of fact that stuff is being worked through. I don't know why. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 14:57   Problems or issues? - Armel Coussine

'Ishoosh not pershonalitiesh' (Tony Benn, way back when...) There is such a thing as an issue. It isn't the same thing as a problem. When someone says something like 'I've got a lot of issues with that' I want to hit them, or at least scream at them to STFU until they have learned English. Tchah! Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 15:07   Problems or issues? - Cliff Pope

>> >> When someone says something like 'I've got a lot of issues with that' I want >> to hit them, At issue, at issue, we all fall down! Reply to this message | Report message       1

New Thu 1 Aug 13 15:10   Problems or issues? - movilogo

Google's definition issue = an important topic or problem for debate or discussion. problem = a matter or situation regarded as unwelcome or harmful and needing to be dealt with and overcome. Reply to this message | Report message       2

New Thu 1 Aug 13 15:19   Problems or issues? - Zero

>> Google's definition >> >> issue = an important topic or problem for debate or discussion. >> >> problem = a matter or situation regarded as unwelcome or harmful and needing to be >> dealt with and overcome. So we need to turn a problem into an issue before it get dealt with? This is very chicken and egg. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 15:29   Problems or issues? - Armel Coussine

>> we need to turn a problem into an issue before it get dealt with? This is very chicken and egg. No. The problem is the problem that needs to be solved. The issue is what the problem is about, not the problem itself. Familiarity with details of the issue should help in solving the problem. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 15:44   Problems or issues? - No FM2R

I thought one resolved the issue so that the problem went away. Is not the problem merely a symptom of the issue? Problem; I can't go to work and will be fired Issue; No petrol in my car. Or have I got that back to front? Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 18:12   Problems or issues? - madf

I have problems with my issues and issues with my problems. The problem is: do I issue a list of problems, or is issuing a list a problem? " Problem; I can't go to work and will be fired Issue; No petrol in my car. Or have I got that back to front?" Problem: you are disorganised so and so.. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 18:15   Problems or issues? - No FM2R

Dammit, that keeps happening. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 19:11   Problems or issues? - FocalPoint

There are no problems, only solutions - that's what the world of business wants us to believe, anyway. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 1 Aug 13 19:25   Problems or issues? - Manatee

Opportunities, if I recall correctly. Sometimes an opportunity to come a cropper of course, but they didn't like it if you said that. Reply to this message | Report message