Has anyone seen the Palin / Trump team? A kick a**, guns, religion, release our armed forces to wipe out ISIS speech from Palin in support of Trump!
A scary combination!
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Crazy, greedy, power-hungry Amerikans. The cause of much trouble in todays world ... with our help.
God bless America, my ass!
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The full text of Sarah's speech, in case anyone can be bothered...
www.buzzfeed.com/kyleblaine/so-uh-heres-the-full-text-of-sarah-palins-bizarre-trump-spee#.yje14kqX9
I like that she calls his followers trumpeters :-)
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La Palin is a five star MILF. If she was ugly fewer would listen to her!
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Really? You think so? Do one's standards normally fall so far with the advancement of years?
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>> Really? You think so? Do one's standards normally fall so far with the advancement of
>> years?
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>> ;-)
Yes.
Actually she is a GILF!
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I heard her screeching on the radio this morning. I had to turn off, The most ghastly American accent of them all.
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>> La Palin is a five star MILF. If she was ugly fewer would listen to
>> her!
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If she was gagged I might listen to her.
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>> >> La Palin is a five star MILF. If she was ugly fewer would listen
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>> If she was gagged I might listen to her.
Depends on what she was gagging ;-0
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>> God bless America, my ass!
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You're not the first Dog to say that.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpMpfZ5Hriw&list=RDxpMpfZ5Hriw
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"I came up with the name Dogg because a dog can do anything, and anything a dog does never comes as a real surprise; if he sleeps on the sofa, s***s on the rug, pi$$es on the drapes, chews up your slippers, humps your mother-in-law's leg, jumps on your new clothes and licks your face, he's never gotten out of character. You understand what he did, you curse while making allowances for him but your love for him never diminishes".
Great lyrics to that song John Boy - a man after my own 'eart. !
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swamp_Dogg
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I think I first heard him on an Andy Kershaw programme. He did his (better) version of a John Prine anti-war song:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWD2Re6SsUU
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Trump and Palin are really just a practical joke aren't they? Sulky disagreeable old woman and screeching fascist virago... no, not even in America.
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I think Trump will be the Republican candidate.
many Republicans are dumb enough.
He could be President... Hilary Clinton is NOT likable.. in a mean way as opposed to Trump who is not likable in a flamboyant way..
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>> I think Trump will be the Republican candidate.
>> many Republicans are dumb enough.
Perhaps madf, God help us all.
No real politician is likeable, deep down and at close quarters. But Hillary Clinton looks genial and cheerful, not sour and rat-like like the ghastly Trump. These things really count.
Surely if you were American you'd rather vote for Hillary than Trump?
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>> I think Trump will be the Republican candidate.
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>> many Republicans are dumb enough.
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>> He could be President... Hilary Clinton is NOT likable.. in a mean way as opposed
>> to Trump who is not likable in a flamboyant way..
Clinton (H) is not unlikeable, she has no charisma, in an experienced and capable way tho. Trump is just plain unlikeable in any way.
Don't forget these are not the proper elections, these primaries and caucuses are just to elect the delegates (not real people) for the convention where potential president is put forward. Palin tied to Trumps tails will alienate the majority of republicans and the rest of the real voters - the american people.
I hope
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Thanks John Boy, I like Swamp Dog.
My late brother's pseudonym was Sam Stone. He used it for all his, um, business dealings.
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www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-35592948
"The electorate will not pick him, said Mr Obama, because "they recognise that being president is a serious job".
An interesting video clip.
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We'll all sleep more soundly in our beds knowing that Donald Trump has the codes to the nuclear button in his pocket.
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Those are the exact words my Dad said about Reagan! - he didn't do too bad though....
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I still expect to see President Trump.
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>> I still expect to see President Trump.
You won't though madf. He's too horrible even for the US voter.
Or so all the sane people are earnestly hoping...
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>> >> I still expect to see President Trump.
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>> You won't though madf. He's too horrible even for the US voter.
>> Or so all the sane people are earnestly hoping...
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If he does then I expect there will be a few folks gunning for him.
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>> I still expect to see President Trump.
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Yes, but not in the presence of the Queen, she might be offended!
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This shows her reaction to trumping.......
The facial expressions say it all....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XapPSEZYUf0
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Jeb Bush is a Grade A plonker and his standing in the polls shows voters think that..
Trump is a very clever man and most of you get dazed by the headlines... He is MILES ahead of any other Republican candidate..I think he's unlikely to win many minority votes... but he does not care - and that is his appeal..(rather like Farage but he -Trump - is a lot smarter)
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>I think he's unlikely to win many minority votes
Minority and marginal/undecided votes.
And that was the voting collective which got Obama in. Well, certainly helped assure his entrance.
I think he will get all the votes he's likely to get early. As the process then starts shaking out I don't think he will gain many/any of the less decided, and will lose some of what he's got.
Equally he is, as one of the articles above said, a protest vote; a finger to the establishment.
That brings two trains of thoughts;
Firstly the establishment, both in the US and elsewhere, should pay attention. UKIP, anti-EU, Trump and several others are all symptomatic of the electorate getting emotional.
In the same way that Farage had a significant impact on topics and behaviours here, Trump will do the same in the US.
And all of the established parties, politicians and groups would do well not to take their eye that far off the ball again. They started to feel safe in a game where they owned the ball and only ever argued or competed with other existing members of the game.
Secondly though, once that protest has been made Trump's usefulness and attractiveness will fall away dramatically, as Farage faded into *relative* obscurity so will Trump.
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I see Trump has won S Carolina for the Republicans by a fairly decent margin. Rubio and Cruz were fairly close 2nd/3rd. As it is they are splitting the vote really, one will step down and the other will get the nomination. www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-35624026
Super Tuesday will be interesting...
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...and now the Trump's had an emphatic win in Nevada www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-35647126
Donald Trump 45.90% 34,224
Marco Rubio 23.83% 17,772
Ted Cruz 21.39% 15,950
Ben Carson 4.83% 3,600
John Kasich 3.60% 2,684
Rand Paul 0.23% 172
Jeb Bush 0.09% 64
Chris Christie 0.07% 50
Carly Fiorina 0.03% 22
Mike Huckabee 0.03% 21
Rick Santorum 0.01% 11
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I am genuinely surprised that Jeb Bush isn't tearing this one up. I was convinced his family's money and influence would buy it for him and it would be Clinton against Bush again. I thought it was the quid pro quo for him rigging the Florida count for his brother.
Oh well. At least if the morons choose Trump they'll lose the main event.
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Jeb Bush isn't tearing this one up because he has already thrown in the towel.
The morons who chose Corbyn don't think they'll lose the main event.
Last edited by: BrianByPass on Wed 24 Feb 16 at 10:35
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I'm more surprised 64 people voted for him, even though he's not in the race anymore.
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Ha, fair enough you two. But I remain surprised that he had to throw the towel in, in that case. Before the race started I thought he would be a shoe-in.
Trump, Corbyn - yes, neither can win their respective general elections.
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Trump, Corbyn - yes, neither can win their respective general elections.
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I don't know, trump had confounded all the experts and journos, at many stages they thought he'd fall away. Yet he's still there. I think it will be very close.
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You can say exactly the same for Corbyn, and yet we're all convinced he's on a hiding to nothing. Aren't we?
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>> You can say exactly the same for Corbyn,
I couldn't no. Trump is riding high in the polls and is front runner to be the nomination. Obviously the systems of gov are different, but I don't think JC is riding high in the polls. I don't think the two can be compared ( in so much as they can be )
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sooty, I'm talking about Corbyn's campaign to become party leader having been being pretty much identical with Trump's campaign to win the nomination. Nobody expected him to become the front runner and win it, but he did. Nobody at the outset expected Trump to become the front runner and win his party's nomination, but it's looking increasingly likely that he will. The two situations are very, very similar in that regards.
But also, further than that, if Trump does confound initial expectations and win the nomination, as did Corbyn when he won the Labour leadership, I expect him to lose the Presidential election, as I expect Corbyn to lose our next general election.
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I know you were. There are some similarities, but the differences in the two political systems make it different enough that i don't think you can read one straight across to the other.
If we were a year out from a general election and jc was doing really well in the polls then I'd perhaps agree. But we aren't, so I can't.
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You're conflating leadership elections with the General Elections again. They are two separate entities. They may well both win the former, I expect both to lose the latter.
They are both extremist nutters who are unelectable to high national office.
Another parallel is the French FN. They ride high until such a time as people realise they might actually get in to power. Then, bang. They disappear.
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No I'm not confusing anything. Quite aware of which is which, I just have a different opinion on the situation.
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I'm sure I'm the last to know but Trump was the Alan Sugar of the US version of The Apprentice and therefore could well have a number of "fans" from that but certainly is widely known.
I wouldn't rule out anything these days, where the public are involved in voting. Voters seem to make decisions based on the most unlikely things.
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>> You can say exactly the same for Corbyn, and yet we're all convinced he's on
>> a hiding to nothing. Aren't we?
I find the prospect of him terrifying. Anybody who says 'no chance' doesn't understand politics.
That said, following the Europe referendum we could see a split in the Conservatives similar to the post-Corn Laws split.
You'd end up with a new centrist party composed of Blairites, Lib Dems and Wets. Corbynites in their Leftist hell hole and Boris leading what's left of the Tories.
That's what Mr Blair reputedly wanted to do in 1997 until he won a landslide.
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>> Anybody who says 'no chance' doesn't understand politics.
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That's a bit of an exaggeration, but I'm prepared to go on the record with my thoughts on how it will pan out.
The referendum will return an "IN" result. Cameron will step down from the leadership, as he has said he will do before the next GE. The economy will continue on its steady if unspectacular path, and whoever takes the Tory leadership will be our next Prime Minister with a majority in the House. Reasoning: as someone once said, it's always about the economy.
The country will not elect Corbyn. Labour will not prevail until a leader who appears economically sound crops up.
You may shove these words straight back down my throat should I be wrong. It's just my gut feeling. My gut was right about the Scottish referendum and the last UK GE. Maybe it's luck is about to run out. Who knows.
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>>You may shove these words straight back down my throat should I be wrong.
I think you are correct. If you are wrong we will all have better things to do than to shove those words down your throat!
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>> Anybody who says 'no chance' doesn't understand politics.
Agreed.
I regularly talk to professional colleagues in the USA, who are 50/50 in both camps.
Six months ago, most would have been vehemently anti-Trump.
Now most of them who are Republicans are pro-Trump.
Also, quite a few Democrats are saying that if Hillary is selected as the Democratic candidate, they will switch their allegiance to "anyone but Hillary".
Note that in Nevada, Trump is reported to have won an unexpectedly large vote from Hispanics who support Trump's stance on immigration. This is not so surprising - you will find that many immigrants who settled in UK in the 20th century are generally anti further immigration.
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.and now the Trump's had an emphatic win in Nevada
www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-3
Yeh - BUT.
The untold story of Donald Trump's win
www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-35651682
34,531 votes cast for Donald Trump.
That's only: 1% of Nevada's total population of 2.9 million
0.001% of the entire US population of 319 million
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>> 34,531 votes cast for Donald Trump.
>> That's only: 1% of Nevada's total population of 2.9 million
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>> 0.001% of the entire US population of 319 million
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I think you have to be a party member to vote there, so it's going to be low.
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Picked up this on Grauniad's website:
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/25/donald-trump-sexual-assault-125-million-lawsuit
I've long thought that the Republican establishment had plenty damaging stuff on Trump and would release it at point of maximum impact -like Super Tuesday. Maybe I was right.
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I wonder if it's interested anyone on the other side of the atlantic?
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>>I've long thought that the Republican establishment had plenty damaging stuff on Trump and would release it at point of maximum impact -like Super Tuesday.
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Meanwhile Hillary got 75% of the vote in South Caroline
www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-35678634
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My pal in the States was relieved when Palin became Trumpton's running mate - he reckons it destroyed any credibility he might have had with the country as a whole.
I think it will be 'President Hilary' in the end.
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>> My pal in the States was relieved when Palin became Trumpton's running mate
At this stage, there is no selection for vice president. What does he mean by running mate?
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Is Mr Trump getting the professional politicians worried because he does not play the game by their rules? Or will he get is wings clipped because he upsets too many politicians and will get little cooperation?
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I think he's past that in both of those.
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It's probably been said before but I imagine he's a bit of a Farage - does well at getting popular support until the chips are down.
He is doing rather well though.
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...on the Republican side, anyway. He's still got to persuade the nation as a whole.
Best outcome: Trump is selected, then loses heavily but not catastrophically in November. That way, it's clear to all that fronting the campaign with an unelectable buffoon cost his party a winnable election. Parties in other countries, facing similar situations, might then take note and rethink before it's too late.
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Think I need to step in and remind everyone this is the primary and Caucasus voting not the people of the USA. Think of it as 50 tory party and 50 labour party conferences.
The republican party is worried, they know he is not electable by the US population, and they will get the unelectable foisted on them by their swivel eyes loons
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Caucasus: mountain range on the borders of Europe/Asia
Caucus (pl: CaucusEs): that wot is going on in that America and wot you are going an about in your post.
Sorry, pendantic I know, but I think I've even heard Radio 4 reporters getting it wrong recently and I are getting all fed up with it.
I expect I am merely taking the bait here however, so shame on me if so.
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Don't worry I did the same reminder to another member a few days back (and deleted it to save embarrassment). :-)
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In fairness in some of the states you don't have to be of any particular party to vote, independents are allowed to vote. I think in some states as well you can vote for the other lot. But it changes from state to state, the whole thing is complicated, overly so.
It's not as good as a general election but i think it gives a bit of a window into how people think broadly about them.
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>> The republican party is worried, they know he is not electable by the US population,
>> and they will get the unelectable foisted on them by their swivel eyes loons
Meanwhile the Democats have the same problem, with the choice between the ghastly Clinton, and the very socialist Sanders.
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Hardly. Clinton has her flaws but has top-level international experience and gravitas. Sanders is too old to be a serious candidate; two terms would take him to 83. (Reagan was a month off 78 when he left office.)
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I think it's because outside their own party they aren't popular. From reading about it both trump and clinton have big negative ratings, they are both marmite candidates, albeit trump more so.
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I liked the Private Eye speech bubble cartoon (it's on the front of the 2016 annual) with Hillary saying "It's time to have a woman in the Oval Office" and Bill replies "Been there, done that". Predictable but funny.
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>> Hardly.
Scarcely. She's as crooked as a nine bob note. I don't know what was going on with that email scandal, but I know I don't like it. Largely because I don't know what else she has done.
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It seems a bit weird to me that the Trumpo Kid is distinctly meaner and uglier looking than the person he fronted for, US concrete Czar Fat Tony Salerno (a well connected person).
Surely that's the wrong way round?
Incidentally, why have people here got it in so heavily for Hillary Clinton? Do you all take your opinions from FAHXnoos? Looks like it to me.
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Hoogstraten and Mugabe: the heavenly twins, a couple of real sweethearts.
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OMG! - Old Navy
