I will start by putting my hands up and saying I really don't like small yappy dugs!
However a friend has a Lhasa / westie cross male (who was neutered as a pup) about 3 or 4 years old, normally well behaved when out walking and very sociable with other dogs. But there seems to have been a total change in attitude and it is now snarling and trying to attack these same dogs that it has happily played with over the last couple of years.
Any obvious reasons why this would be? She is now thinking of having to get a small muzzle type thing to put on it when it starts to try and get the message across but any other thoughts / ideas?
(And my suggestion of trading it in for a proper dog didn't meet with much success :)
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Something wrong with it, is it in pain? Brain tumour?
If it's had a complete personality transplant then I'd be taking it to the vitinery.
Disclaimer - I know nowt about dugs.
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Its perfectly ok every other time, has always been a yappy that will bark if someone passes the house window etc .
The only difference seems to be when mixing with other dogs!
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Its small dog syndrome, incurable. get rid.
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Sounds like a derivative of small person syndrome. - they become ticket inspectors, parking police, amateur football referees.........
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>> Sounds like a derivative of small person syndrome. - they become ticket inspectors, parking police,
>> amateur football referees.........
get rid
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There are plenty of big, barky dogs around too. And tall referees.
Confirmation bias.
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>> There are plenty of big, barky dogs around too.
You can stop big barmy dogs from barking.
>>And tall referees.
Comment (loud shout actually) heard at West Ham when there was a tall referee.
Got your head in the clouds you e***** long lanky streak of p....
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West Ham and barking (Barking) in the same post. Can anyone else think of a gag? I'm stumped.
Best one I heard from the enclosure at Fulham was to a female linesman, "Oi, linesman, you, er, um...........get yer flag up, Missus!" Such breeding, such manners.
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>> Sounds like a derivative of small person syndrome. - they become ticket inspectors, parking police,
>> amateur football referees.........
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Forum mods.....
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"Incurable" might be a wee bit of an overstatement don't you think? Sure of course some small dogs are or can be harder work but with perseverance they can usually be brought round. It's the owners ( of any dog ) who need to look to their own ways if a dog is troublesome.
There's a lot of dog snobbery about with those who own top of the range models being snooty about the more proletarian ones but ultimately, if you're prepared to put the work in to the animal even the most humble scruffy mutt can become a joy.
The thing to grasp with little terriers and mongrels is that they are often deeply thick and have short attention spans. Think of how you would deal with a human with those characteristics and the way becomes clear. Clear, non-complex instructions, regular and consistent praise/reward regime and when out of their home environment or socialising with other dogs, you must keep their attention much more so than with a more intelligent breed. Once they see the light so to speak, they can be very loyal, they're often far too stupid to remember not to be!
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>> "Incurable" might be a wee bit of an overstatement don't you think?
No. Small dogs that get barky in middle age are incurable in a humane way
Sure of course
>> some small dogs are or can be harder work but with perseverance they can usually
>> be brought round. It's the owners ( of any dog ) who need to look
>> to their own ways if a dog is troublesome.
No Small dogs that get barky in middle age are incurable in a humane way
>> The thing to grasp with little terriers and mongrels is that they are often deeply
>> thick and have short attention spans. Think of how you would deal with a human
>> with those characteristics and the way becomes clear. Clear, non-complex instructions, regular and consistent praise/reward
No Small dogs that get barky in middle age are incurable in a humane positive reward way You can fix it, but it involves a shock collar.
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Well, I'm afraid I will just have to agree to differ with you on that.
Moving on...
;-)
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There's some truth in Zero's point and we have relatives with just such an incurable dog.
However I would ask in the case of Bobby's friend has there been any change in the household routine... even one the friend is overlooking but the dog can see/sense?
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>> No. Small dogs that get barky in middle age are incurable in a humane way
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If I ever get 30 minutes alone with the yappy little dog next door there will be nothing humane about it.
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>> Its small dog syndrome, incurable. get rid.
Do they get it because they are small dogs, or is it because of the way some owners tend to treat small dogs (as babies, from my observations)? My aunt and uncle had a Jack Russell that was vile.
If it's the way they are treated, then the owner needs some training before they get another one?
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Only dog I've ever been bitten by was a sainted Labrador. I had done nothing but walked upon its garden path. The dog knew me, it belonged to an uncle. I was a child at the time. Oh, and I was almost savaged by an aggressive Alsatian quite recently, on entering its garden to deliver a local interest leaflet at the house - it appeared from round the corner of the house at break neck speed and volume as I was halfway up the path. I had no idea it lived there. The owner allowed it to get to the stage of it having its paws on my shoulders and roaring in to the back of my head before calling it off. He watched the whole thing with amusement. Ex copper and an ex police dog, according to a neighbour. Charmed, I was.
The problem with stereotyping is that you get good little ones and bad big ones. The stereotype may lull people into false senses of security, particularly with Labs who are big, excitable, strong things. Of course, it's most usually down to the ownership. My little JRT is a delight, as was my mother's timid little JRT. Woe betide you if you're a rat/squirrel/bunny/fox/inattentive garden bird though.
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>> The problem with stereotyping
I dont stereotype dogs. You can't afford to. The most vicious dog I know (and I have been bitten by some of the most capable dogs on the planet) was a Goldie of some age. Most of the time it was loveable in a "come and love me" goldie way, but if it took a dislike to you, it would let you know. I saw the damage it caused to a not inconsiderably brutal GSD.
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>> I dont stereotype dogs.
But small yappy ones are incurable, get rid.
As usual, I are confuse.
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>> >> I dont stereotype dogs.
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>> But small yappy ones are incurable, get rid.
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>> As usual, I are confuse.
Thats not stereotyping, thats characteristics and imprinting.
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>> >> Its small dog syndrome, incurable. get rid.
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>> Do they get it because they are small dogs, or is it because of the
>> way some owners tend to treat small dogs (as babies, from my observations)? My aunt
>> and uncle had a Jack Russell that was vile.
Funnily enough, small dogs that are treated as babies and carried around in bags, papooses, baskets on front of bikes etc etc tend to be less vocal.
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Runfer said "There's a lot of dog snobbery about with those who own top of the range models being snooty about the more proletarian ones ..."
Now where have I come across that kind of attitude before?
:-)
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>> If it's the way they are treated, then the owner needs some training before they
>> get another one?
That some owners are not fit to have a dog is indisputable.
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Most dogs ( of any breed or size ) can be trained provided they are in no doubt that "their" human is also their pack leader. That doesn't mean you have to be cruel to them either, just treat them as dogs not children. They thrive on routine, reward/praise for "good" behaviour and rules.
My brother in law does my head in. He/they have a Weimeraner. Quite apart from being waaaay too big for their house, it behaves badly and he just shouts at it and punishes it rather than trains it. Damn thing doesn't know whether it's coming or going and is very nervous and barky.
I took it for a day and worked with it on a very long walk in company with my wee terrier. Plenty of dog treats in my pocket and took the time to teach the big dog that when he did what was required it resulted in praise or reward.
Of course it helped that the little one is very cooperative and level headed.
I don't claim any specialist knowledge other than having grown up with multiple ( and various sized ) dogs and certainly wouldn't say I'm in any position to give other than laymans advise, but with few exceptions they are happy to work with you and happy to be dominated if it's done in a kind but firm manner.
Owners who are not prepared to put the proper work in get badly adjusted dogs.
Bit like cars really, neglect the basics and don't be surprised if it lets you down.
Last edited by: Runfer D'Hills on Wed 10 Feb 16 at 16:44
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>> Owners who are not prepared to put the proper work in get badly adjusted dogs.
Bobby? BOBBY - Bloke here says he will fix your dog in a jiffy, send it down.
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As above, I will just have to agree to differ with you on this. I respect your opinion, but mine is different. That ok?
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There is no problem, I fully except you think you can silence a small middle aged yappy dog,
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>> There is no problem, I fully accept you think you can silence a small middle
>> aged yappy dog,
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And you are cordially invited to pop down and see me competing in a dog obedience show later this month.
Last edited by: Zero on Wed 10 Feb 16 at 17:20
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Taking the dog with you? :-)
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>> Taking the dog with you? :-)
No ruddy chance. it would show me up
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I'm sure you are really very good at it and could not possibly have anything further to learn on that subject. ( either )
Have fun anyway !
;-))
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No one will remember my post some years ago, on the two Jack Russells belonging to some (otherwise very civilized) friends of ours. They were named after two great military leaders: Shaka Zulu and the Soviet Marshal Zhukov. When we went to dinner with them one of these monsters - I forget which - sat at the head of the table on its hind legs, barking steadily. In the end, noticing our pained expressions, the husband put the little horror outside. Almost immediately the wife let the damn thing back in so that it could continue yapping. They are still friends of ours but the damn dogs are long dead thank God.
I think it's in a Kipling story that a military CO's similar dog is captured by his exasperated men and has the rings of a high-explosive shell painted on its nose and belly.
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Thanks to moderator who moved my post on Shaka and Zhukov to this thread.
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>> I'm sure you are really very good at it and could not possibly have anything
>> further to learn on that subject. ( either )
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>> Have fun anyway !
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>> ;-))
Ah yes but, the point is I know what I can't do. And you of course can ;p I must tell you all you need to know about shoes one day ;0
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A sharp, hard smack across the face. Job done. Sorted.
Works with all the dogs I've been with.
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you paid your littering fine yet?
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>>Ah yes but, the point is I know what I can't do...
Fair enough, we all have our limitations. Don't beat yourself up about it. It's cool, really.
;-)
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Have you watched the famous episode of the Simpsons "Barts dog gets an F"
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No, but I must be about the only person on the planet never to have got around to watching any Simpsons episode. Of course I'm aware of them but have never actually taken the time to watch one. I only bought a telly for the first time when my current wife moved in with me and she wanted one, I'd never bothered with one until then. Still dont switch it on much unless "she" wants to watch something. Much more likely to have the radio on.
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The simpsons is a fantastic pee taking commentary on social issues and the pompous. Written with a sharp cruel wit.
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Yeah, I think I knew that, but for whatever reason, probably no reason, I've just never got around to it.
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>>Written with a sharp cruel wit.>>
Spot on. The Magic Roundabout was very similar in a cleverly disguised way.
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remember its not MY dog ! Mines is a nice black lab that only barks when I bark first and point to him what he has to bark at!
Why have a dog and bark yourself was written for me.....,..
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Apart from the Basenji (nice dog BTW) most dogs bark. My two dogs eat bark :)
I have a load of Birch (sold to me as Ash!!) logs piled up in my inglenook plus a basketful.
They regularly get stuck into them (dogs will and do eat anything) but it passes straight through them.
I know this because tis I who has to pick it up.
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>> I know this because tis I who has to pick it up.
Upon arrival at Palace Zero, Fifi Mk2 immediately dove into the shrubbery's surrounding the palace gardens making runs and dens therein. She then started bringing out the old dead wood in stick format, creating rather artfully designed piles around the lawn. FiFi's Runes we called them.
Of course much to her annoyance I mowed them, so she replaced them. The shrubbery's are now stick free
Last edited by: VxFan on Thu 11 Feb 16 at 10:21
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Praps [well, we know they are] dogs are much wiser than we think:
"Willow bark extract became recognized for its specific effects on fever, pain and inflammation in the mid-eighteenth century. Lewis and Clark allegedly used willow bark tea in 1803–1806 as a remedy for fever for members of the famous expedition. By the nineteenth century pharmacists were experimenting with and prescribing a variety of chemicals related to salicylic acid, the active component of willow extract"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_aspirin
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"Praps [well, we know they are] dogs are much wiser than we think:"
or more stupid
Aspirin is poisonous to dogs.
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>>Aspirin is poisonous to dogs.
I've not heard of that one before. Maybe given the correct dose, taking into consideration the size of the dog, it could be of use?
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It can be, and is proscribed by vets for pain relief. Dosages much lower than adult humans, for small dogs 60mg tablets. For larger breeds 300mg no more than twice a day. Sort periods of time only.
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Small yappy dog advice - Manatee
