My kitchen and utility room is beginning to look like a waste transfer station, How does anybody with a small kitchen cope?
Separating for 3.5 multicolored bins that have now become a driveway feature. Just differentiating between brown paper, white paper, envelopes with windows is a problem, let alone separating out the food packaging. I might as well bring the bins inside.
The small container for newspapers is only just big enough for 1 weekends newspapers - and they collect the bins only every 2 weeks.
If they wish to do this seriously somebody has got to think it through.
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Our council thought too much, they have three different systems in their areas of collection. In our area all recycling except paper has to be taken to a recycling point so many people just put it in the landfill bin.
Last edited by: Old Navy on Wed 23 Mar 11 at 21:54
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Easy here. Paper, card, plastic, metals in the green box, garden waste in green bag, food waste in food bin and everything else in the wheey bin.
Wheely bin once a fortnight everything else weekly.
Not to bad and as a family of 7 we only just fill the standard size wheely bin over two weeks so I guess we recycle a fair bit
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1/ Card and plastic in the Black box
2/ Tin and Bottles in the Blue box
3/ Newspapers in the blue bag
4/ Garden waste in the green bin
5/ Food waste in the Black food waste bin
6/ Other waste in the Grey standard bin.
7/ Optional is the textile in the black bag and batteries in the clear bag.
1, 2, 3 all get thrown with no care in the same bin lorry shoot.
Madness.
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Same in most areas these days - just done the "green" wheelie for the fortnightly land-fill waste, plus the blue box for the recycling stuff they take (cans, plastic bottles, paper in various guises and cardboard) - brown wheelie next week for the kitchen and garden waste and the blue box. - it has become a feature of life, it's a messy way of doing business. Wheelies live outside, blue boxes ( two of them, everyone here has had to have an extra one) live in the utility room which also houses the kitchen waste holding bin) - the kitchen is home to two stainless kitchen bins for card and land-fill. Complex operations involved in separating all this. Everything else, drink cartons, electrical stuff, paint, scrap metal, textiles and larger chunks of cardboard need to be delivered to the next town to the recycling centre. And this needs to be stored up somewhere before it can be delivered there........
The system is labour intensive for the householder but the staff are pretty good - particularly in the council run recycling centre.
There are different systems in the six council areas that make up North Wales - Flintshire still have bin bags. Ironically one of the most efficient in Wales is Anglesey despite its corrupt and inept administration (taken over as of today for direct rule from Cardiff by commissioners), the other is Denbighshire that allow householder to have a wheelie for re-cycling and the council sort it out. Unpopular with the Politburo in Cardiff as it doesn't fit in with their view of the world.
I wonder how people in terraced houses with no rear access manage.
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>> I wonder how people in terraced houses with no rear access manage.
Youngest daughter and family have a small terrace. Front door on street and medium size back yard.
They don't have weeeelies. Boxes for paper and glass and the rest in black bags on the pavement. Back entry big enough to take a Transit but the binmen won't go there...cobbled, H & S issues........Stockport.
We have 5 wheelies and a kitchen caddy. 2 general waste one each for paper/card, glass/plastic, garden/kitchen caddy.
General every Wed, paper/glass alternate Weds. Green, fortnightly on Wednesday.
That means 3 monster trucks up the road every other Wednesday...Green ? Bring it on !
Ted
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> I wonder how people in terraced houses with no rear access manage.
The village I live does have them and they must have to wheel them through the house - as there is no rear access and the bins are on parade on a Wednesday morning (that part of a very small village is collected on a different day !) - whilst they are out, especially in winter they must get filthy....can't be right that.
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>>3.5 multicolored bins that have now become a driveway feature<<
I should have made it clear that there are 3 wheely bins
Black - landfill inc 'waxed paper' containers eg fruit juice
Brown - Garden waste and brown cardboard and rotting foodstuffs
Blue - recycling - plastic, metal andglass
and a small Blue inner bin for newspapers + white paper + yellow pages but no window envelopes
And every area seems to have its own rules and colors!!!!!!!!
Last edited by: pmh on Wed 23 Mar 11 at 22:06
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Light grey bin - garden waste but not soil, plus cardboard ( but not paper? )
Red box - paper only
Blue box - plastic bottles ( no other recyclable cartons though ) and cans + glass
Grey bin - all else.
They dont do any kind of checking what is in the bins but will leave anything from blue box that they dont like.
Seems less complex than many arrangements.
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Our lot seem to have it sorted. We have a wheelie bin (blue lid) for all 'recyclables' - glass/paper/card/tins/plastic, which is collected fortnightly, There's an optional wheelie bin (brown lid) for all garden waste. They'll take all other waste weekly in standard black bags or another, again optional, wheelie bin.
Whether they do anything with the recyclables or not is another matter...
Peter
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I, personally, don't care a tuppeny toss about all this recycling PC nonsense.
Being forced to do this sort of insane jobsworth stuff just makes me want to screw the system. I don't respond well to compulsion.
I'll do it if it makes sense to ME, so our two bins get filled, more or less, with the right sort of stuff just because a different coloured one is collected each week and our combined waste won't fit into one bin!
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They should ship the stuff back to China - that's where most of it comes from, anyway!
A bit more pollution won't be noticed there.
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I heard a tale about a council that discontinued use of one type of wheely bin.
Where did all the redundant bins go? Landfill of course.
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I started re-cycling my CAR magazine collection today :-( I've kept the early ones with Phil Llewelyn and Setright though. I just couldn't bring myself to get shot of them...:-(((
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I did the same with Practical Classics mag ages ago. I had every issue since no.1 in about 1982. I stood back and looked at how stupid I was to keep them, I'd rarely, if ever, referred back to one. I wouldn't know where to find a particular item, anyway.
The lot went in the bin. Ive also kept all my issues of Hornby mag, only been out about 3 years. Neatly stacked in the wardrobe....WHY ? Now all gone to a friend's 14 yr old lad who's interested.
I save the current ones and let him have them when they visit.
Ted
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PU and Ted should be ashamed of yourselves. Have you never heard of Freecycle? I'm sure someone would've snapped them up and they come and collect them too.
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We're looking a v3.1 of de-clutter here, lot's of stuff has gone to various charity shops and that isn't simple these days.
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For us it's a black, green and blue bin. The blue bin takes pretty much all plastic, including Tetrapak stuff, tops and other plastic items you never used to be able to put into recycling. Also all cardboard and paper. So pretty much everything. Green takes garden/food waste and black takes anything else, including small electrical items, or even rubble in moderation.
And yes, in our case, there was a story in the local news a week or two back, and sure enough, it indeed all going to China.
Last edited by: Crankcase on Thu 24 Mar 11 at 21:43
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Some recycling oddities across areas... our plastic goes in the same bin as glass. Tetrapak goes in with paper and cardboard.
I do wonder how they really recycle glass now - it all goes in the same bin. And no doubt it all ends up overseas. Except there is less demand and so I bet there's a big warehouse somewhere that is used for storage.
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Crikey. Here I have one container for "landfill", one for "recycling", and one for "garden/kitchen waste". A glass recycling container is a possibility, but I take mine to the bottle bank, which separates colourless/brown/green glass.
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We have a couple of opencast coal mines near us, each is big enough to loose a small town in, but the council whines about lack of landfill. Joined up thinking required?
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Perhaps the answer to all this is edible containers, when you've unpacked the 50" Plasma,
you can dine on the packaging :+)
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Perhaps the answer to all this is edible containers
Corrugated rice paper could be the answer -replace all polystyrene, and save the planet.
Probably find that 50% of the Asian continent would then starve to death?
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4 bins here in Oxfordshire.
Black - general non recycled rubbish.
Green - recycled stuff. Card, plastics, newspapers, etc.
Small bin - food waste.
Smaller bin - keep indoors for food waste, then transfer to the small bin outside when full.
To be honest, we don't bother with the food waste bin as there isn't room indoors for it. All food waste goes in the black general rubbish bin, or out on the garden for the birds & stray cats to eat.
We keep the newspapers & magazines in the shed in a cardboard box until collection day, then transfer to the recycled bin.
Binmen don't bother to check the contents of the bin - unlike someone else's council collectors on here (was it Pat?).
Food bin (don't bother with see above) gets collected weekly.
The other 2 bins get collected on alternate weeks.
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>> All food waste goes in the black general rubbish bin, or out
>> on the garden for the birds & stray cats to eat.
Mind you don't start attracting ratty.
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>> Mind you don't start attracting ratty.
We used to get them, but there are far too many stray and domestic cats around these days. It would take a brave (or foolish) rat to appear in my garden.
Last edited by: VxFan on Thu 24 Mar 11 at 12:00
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No, they can't - EU Landfill Directive.
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>> No, they can't - EU Landfill Directive.
Good for the EU; it's acheived something even the strongest local opposition might not have managed. And even if there's a suitable hole in the ground and a willing local populace burying more stuff than we absolutely have to is scandalous in terms of wast, pollution risk etc etc.
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Our black bin is only 2/3rds size. Our last garden waste collection was Nov 18th last year and our next isn't until April 7th. I've cut our (sizeable) lawns twice already this year which is at least a whole binful, and they're about ready for a third cut.
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>>I've cut our (sizeable) lawns twice already this year which is at least a whole binful
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I mix my lawn mowings with shreaded paper and bagged leaves from last autumn, pop em in the composter and later on in the year the lot goes back on the lawn.
However if you do not have the space then I too would bin it.
My prunings get bagged and a couple of trips a year to the tip ( which is not too far) solves that.
I am not paying the council for garden stuff collection as I do not generate enough for a regular collection.
We only have a slops bucket (caddy), a landfill wheelie and a recycle wheelie.
The recycle bin. - Paper, cardboard, glass bottles, tins and plastic bottles but no tetrapacks / drinks cartons.
Kingston council supply 52 bags each year for the large caddy but we have to buy expensive bags or wrap stuff in paper.
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Funny, isn't it that although you have no lawful contract with your local council, they not only bill you for un-contracted services, but also bill you if you don't use those services as they want you to.
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Get out of it, you are paying a piddling amount of Council Tax.
Last edited by: Zero on Thu 24 Mar 11 at 22:13
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I.m going to ring and get another kitchen caddy....not that we produce a lot of food waste but it would make a great picnic box for doing the Summer old car shows.
Ted
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We have a single wheely bin - you take anything else to the recycle place.
The provision of the bin is just a commercial arrangement between me and Sita, for which they charge 20p/kilo and collect every two weeks.
As far a I know, all the rubbish gets burnt to provide hot water for the houses and flats connected to the system. Virtually every large town has it's own incinerator, and they're very proud of them. In fact, there was a report the other day that some areas are having to import rubbish from Norway as there wasn't enough locally to burn.
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Recycling rant - Old Navy
