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 Hillsborough manslaughter charge - Bromptonaut
>> But it is true. David Duckenfield wasnt at the back of that crowd pushing them
>> in was he.

It doesn't need pushing; the seething mass of people is enough. The point that's crystal clear from judge's remarks when sentencing Mackrell is that the inadequacy of the turnstiles meant a crush was inevitable.

>> Tens of thousands of people were responsible for
>> that disaster. The crowd, the attitude, the football league, the stadium owners, the police, Everyone.

I'd agree with most of that, it's the 'fans as primary cause' bit I'm contesting. Hillsborough wasn't fit for purpose. As Manatee points out there had been enough warnings and near misses, one of which amounted to a dress rehearsal for 1989. I suspect a mindset in Police and elsewhere that fans were 'animals' and that there was a bit of a 'show them who is boss' mentality. Same mindset in government.

>> Sorry scousers you aint gonna blame it on one man let all the others go
>> Scot free and shirk your own responsibility.

Duckinfield is last probably last man standing but he shouldn't be scapegoat. A lot of other people who made key decisions are dead.
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