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Thread Author: Bagpuss Replies: 17

 Motoring in Siberia - Bagpuss
Last week my wife and I ended up flying to Russia at rather short notice. Our journey initially took us to Moscow where my father in law collected us in his Subaru Forester from Domodedovo airport some 50km to the south of the city. Domodedovo has become a very modern hub for flight connections to the Caucasus, middle and south east Asia and is far nicer than that temple to Soviet architecture Sheremetyovo to the north of Moscow which was built for the 1980 Olympics. To be honest it’s also far nicer and better organised than Heathrow.

The only problem is the distance from the centre of Moscow. The journey can take between 1 and 3 hours depending on the time of day and traffic density. The motorway to the centre was actually built during Soviet times but is surprisingly good. There are loads of traffic police ensuring strict adherence to the 80km/h speed limit and the standard bribe is now around 100 Dollars, so worth not getting caught. The standard of driving has considerably improved in the last years, drivers now actually stop at red lights, don’t undertake and sometimes even stop at pedestrian crossings, though the exceptions are the pimped up Porsche Cayennes driven at high speed whatever the circumstances. Nod and a wave to the police and off they go.

Following day we were back off to the airport to catch the late night red eye bomber to Kemerovo in Southern Siberia. We flew with Siberian Airways and in years gone by the mere idea of this journey would have brought me out in a cold sweat and cost me several nights sleep. Fortunately the Tupolevs are now history as Siberian Airways has invested in a fleet of shiny new Airbuses. Apart from the violent purple colour of the furniture the journey was uneventful and certainly more comfortable (economy class) than internal flights I’ve taken in the recent past in the US.

An acquaintance collected us, bleary eyed, from the airport. His chariot of choice was a Toyota Gaia, a sort of Zafira clone, and a right hand drive import from Japan, of which more later.

Last winter was extreme even by Siberian standards and the roads are now in a dreadful condition with potholes big enough to swallow a small hatchback forcing traffic to zig zag across the roads to avoid them. Despite the state of the roads, the harsh winters and cheap petrol, there are actually very few SUVs about in this part of the world. Most people seem to be able to cope with small hatchbacks. A straw poll suggests around 50% of the cars is of Japanese origin and most of those are right hand drive. This is because up until last year Russia imported used cars from Japan by the shipload. The Russian government tried to kybosh this by increasing the import duty on imported cars to try and protect the local manufacturers. In practice it would take more than this to persuade Russians to buy Ladas and Moskwitches.

The variety of the Japanese models is amazing and far greater than what gets imported to Western Europe. From dinky little Mitsubishi microcars up to Toyota Previas by the shedload and even the latest W124-alike Toyota Crown. I even saw 3 of those old Toyota Camry estates with the 2 wipers on the back as well as an estate car which I didn’t manage to identify but looked like some kind of large Honda fastback. What you don’t see are sports cars, I guess the roads are just too unforgiving.

The Toyota Gaia in which we were ferried about was a pleasant enough thing with a spacious cabin, but Japanese market seats that were too short for a 6’2” Western European. The interior was generic Toyota with gold coloured velours seats and dark plastic wood trim. An LED poking out of a broken light and the whizz bang Sat Nav (which doesn’t work in Russia) the only indications that this car was built in the 21st century. The automatic gearbox was a three speed + overdrive unit with a column shift allowing space for a bizarrely shaped folding table between the seats whose purpose I could not fathom. The folding mechanism was nicely engineered though and overall the car was wearing its 180,000km on fairly dreadful roads very well, a testament to the advantages of these Japanese cars compared to the local offerings.

On day 3 we drove to Novokusnezk which is 250km east of Kemorovo. As we were leaving, the temperature plummeted from 25C to 5C and the first flakes of snow started to fall. Within an hour we were caught in a blizzard, not uncommon in Siberia in May apparently. This part of Russia is also desolate; there is no infrastructure apart from the (2 way) road and frequently no fence between the road and the swamps through which the road is built. Despite the jetlag I was too nervous to sleep but I had to admire the tenacity of our driver who skillfully avoided potholes covered in some 10cm of snow as well as making progress by slithering past the mega slow trucks lining the route and avoiding other hazards such as dead Ladas, abandoned where they had expired with their bonnets up.

The following day the snow melted and the temperature was back to 20C or so, fortunate as I hadn’t brought any winter gear with me. Novokusnezk is an industrial city with some nice new buildings, typically Russian wide open squares and avenues, but a lot of typically Soviet era grey. The 1960s medium rise apartment buildings in the residential areas reminded me of Salford though the Russians are generally more friendly and less likely to want a fight. Driving here is actually very laid back compared to Moscow but care is needed as, although the potholes were being repaired, the resulting roadworks are not signposted or cordoned off in way, you just have to keep your eyes open and ensure timely evasive action. This makes driving after dark something of an adventure, although these days there are actually streetlights.

An odd motoring trend I saw here was a number of Lada 2110s on to which a BMW double kidney grill had been transplanted. A neighbour in the place we stayed had rebadged his Lada Samara as a Toyota Corolla in a truly unique example of badge snobbery.

We stayed the week there and took the one and only plane at the airport back to Moscow and from there to Munich. We’ll be going back again in July, the snow should be gone by then.
 Motoring in Siberia - Netsur
Fascinating! The thought of going to Russia is enough to make me week. But I suppose those oligarchs must make money somehow and someone has to do the work! How far east were you? What is the jet lag like?
 Motoring in Siberia - Bagpuss
Russia isn't that bad these days. I really like Moscow, it's a fascinating city with a unique combination of turbulent history and modern dynamism and no more dangerous than Paris or London. The biggest problem I have is with the air pollution which is really bad in the Summer.

On this trip we were in Novokusnezk which is about 600km North of the border shared between Russia, China, Mongolia and Kazakhstan. There's a 6 hour time difference to the UK.
 Motoring in Siberia - Runfer D'Hills
Just to say thanks for sharing that insight into Russian motoring Bagpuss. I enjoyed reading it very much. Just the sort of thing which makes the forum more interesting. More to follow in the fullness of time I hope ?
 Motoring in Siberia - Netsur
I think we should have a travelogue section. Many of us travel and insights into the motoring habits of the foreigner will always be of interest to the colonists.

The last time anyone in my family was in Russia it was my great grandparents who escaped about 110 years ago to Manchester to avoid pogroms. Hence slight nervousness about going back. Filthy Cossacks!
 Motoring in Siberia - Skoda
Really enjoyed reading this Bagpuss.

>> I think we should have a travelogue section

I dunno, i like the fact that so many types of post are permitted in the one section, it makes for a box of chocolates type of forum, i like that a lot.
 Motoring in Siberia - Bellboy
just to second Humphs words
more more more please
real writing, not meaningless words strung together by an overpaid hopeless journalist
 Motoring in Siberia - -
My thanks too BP, enjoyed that a lot..don't suppose you've kept photos of the trips perchance..be marvellous if you could link to a secure album of your trip on photobucket or similar.

having said that you painted a vivid picture for us in words alone.
 Motoring in Siberia - Bagpuss
Thanks for the feedback, guys.

I had thought about linking to some photos, but most of what I took is very family related. I'll take some more neutral piccies when I'm back there in July. There's a statue of Lenin on a square in Kemorovo which is directly opposite one of the biggest banks. It only struck me afterwards what a great photo opportunity that would have been.

I had wanted to take a photo of Novokusnezk airport as I've never been to an airport where there was only one single plane on the runway but I'm fairly certain that's an arrestible offence - it is in the US.
 Motoring in Siberia - nyx2k
it's always very interesting reading others motoring tales whether here or abroad.
thanks for the posting
 Motoring in Siberia - Mike Hannon
Seconded.
 Motoring in Siberia - Alanovich
Thanks, Bagpuss. I genuinely miss Russia and its people, so really enjoyed your piece.

I haven't been there since Gorbachev's days, when the sight of a western or Japanese car would have stopped the traffic. They were incredibly rare. I remember spotting a mark 1 Escort with Soviet plates in 1990, and even though I was there for almost a year, I can remember seeing no other non-Eastern bloc cars whatsoever. I often wonder what the story was behind that Escort. I expect it's long since been crushed, sadly.
 Motoring in Siberia - Bagpuss
The thing that amazes me about Russia is how quickly things are changing there. I go to Moscow regularly so get used to the astonishing wealth that has accumulated there over the last 10 years. I hadn't expected to go to such a backwater place and see that the economic boom has taken hold to such an extent. I visit places in the North of England that make more of a decrepit impression. The people there are so friendly as well, despite my virtually nonexistant Russian. Just wish they would do something about the air pollution.

Oh, and the weather of course - the winter in Southern Siberia is 6 months long.
 Motoring in Siberia - Netsur
The winter can be sorted immediately - its just the pollution will take a little longer................
 Motoring in Siberia - Alanovich
I have no doubt whatsoever that I'd barely recognise the place, BP. I think it'd be a bit of a shock. I actually used to like the Soviet drabness. There was something very pleasing to me about the architecture.

Sheremetyevo was always dreadful though, and Domodedovo was just an airfield back then. I flew out once to Georgia in some apalling death trap from there, some of the seats were missing backs and small livestock was being transported in the passenger cabin. We were in the back row and friend's bottle of dodgy vodka, stashed under the seat, was almost frozen solid from a small draught from the rear by the time we arrived. I wished to heaven that we'd taken the train.
 Motoring in Siberia - Auntie Lockbrakes
I've done the hop from Domodedovo airport to downtown Moscow several times in semi-decrepit private hire "taxis". The drivers didn't seem worried about the cops. Then again the cops were invariably already busy pulling over somebody else.

What struck me in downtown Moscow was the huge width of the main roads - 8 lanes being commonplace! Pedestrians don't stand a chance, and need to find subways in order to cross the road.

The other oddity I recall is the big circular(-ish) road around much of the Kremlin. It's essentially a giant roundabout, but a clockwise one (as in the UK) yet the Russians drive on the right. So there are several intersections where traffic entering or exiting the roundabout has to turn left and cross oncoming traffic...odd. Imagine anti-clockwise roundabouts in the UK, if you see what I mean.
 Motoring in Siberia - Bellboy
friend's bottle of dodgy vodka, stashed under the seat, was almost frozen solid from a small draught
>>>>>>>..
>>>>>>>>>it must have been dodgy because real vodka wont freeze
 Motoring in Siberia - Manatee
40% ABV vodka freezes at -30C. Maybe the water starts to crystallise at higher temperatures. It's all dodgy as far as I'm concerned. I'd rather have a Bruichladdich.

Informative account Bagpuss, worth the writing up.
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