Non-motoring > Where does energy come from? Buying / Selling
Thread Author: No FM2R Replies: 55

 Where does energy come from? - No FM2R
Thought this was interesting.....

www.iflscience.com/environment/where-does-each-country-get-its-power
 Where does energy come from? - sooty123
I think there's a website called grid watch that moniters the UK's source of energy continually.
 Where does energy come from? - fluffy
Thanks for the website called grid watch.

I am keen to have a look.
 Where does energy come from? - Focusless
>> I think there's a website called grid watch

www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/
 Where does energy come from? - Cliff Pope
I was expecting a more fundamental explanation, such as from collapsing mass on a sub-atomic scale.
 Where does energy come from? - Runfer D'Hills
Or Mars bars.
 Where does energy come from? - Cliff Pope
>> Or Mars bars.
>>

They are a good example of collapsing mass - now much smaller than they used to be.
 Where does energy come from? - fluffy
How much did electricity cost in the 1800s in comparison to today.

What power did we use in the 1800s against what power we use today.
 Where does energy come from? - Slidingpillar
Size of all choccy bars varies with time. Some costs that would make the bar more expensive are absorbed by shrinking the bar, eventually leaving the manufacturers able to make a demonstrably larger bar and charge more for it.
 Where does energy come from? - fluffy
So how expensive was electricity in the 1800s than the price of electricity is today.
 Where does energy come from? - Robin O'Reliant
>> So how expensive was electricity in the 1800s than the price of electricity is today.
>>
The price of electricity was remarkably stable up until the 1800s when it rose sharply. Must have been some sort of energy crisis around that that time.
 Where does energy come from? - No FM2R
Electricity prices had been stable for almost 500 years until the light bulb was invented in the late 1800s. That dramatically increased the demand and so prices began rising.
Last edited by: No FM2R on Sun 1 May 16 at 19:57
 Where does energy come from? - CGNorwich
Yes, up to then the price, like the electricity had been mainly static.
Last edited by: CGNorwich on Sun 1 May 16 at 20:04
 Where does energy come from? - fluffy
I agree, if demand excessed supply the price goes up.

I presume the invention of the light bulb dramatically increased the demand for electricity which increased the price of each electricity per unit.

That is one reason the price of electricity began to rise.
 Where does energy come from? - No FM2R
Ah, but then they brought in daylight savings time. And as you know, all the daylight that is saved during the summer is then used in the winter. Therefore light bulbs were used less and for a while the price of electricity decreased.

But then with the two wars they need complicated manufacturing processes to make tanks and guns, and this processes had lots of different phases. So then they had to add extra phases to the electricity which then meant that loads more ohms were used. As ohms are so expensive the price went back up gain.

As for LED bulbs, well if they save ohms, then I guess they'll save money.
 Where does energy come from? - CGNorwich
What about the ohmless?
 Where does energy come from? - No FM2R
No ohms at all? Then clearly they would get free electricity.
 Where does energy come from? - fluffy
Will the invention of the L.E.D. light bulb reduce the price of electricity per unit.


 Where does energy come from? - Focusless
>> So how expensive was electricity in the 1800s than the price of electricity is today.

Doesn't answer your question but useful background info:
www.engineering-timelines.com/how/electricity/timeline.asp
 Where does energy come from? - No FM2R
There was an excellent report written about this by the Russian scientist Swichonanov, you should probably look for it.
 Where does energy come from? - fluffy
How much would a lightbulb have cost in the 1800s in comparison to buying a lightbulb today.
 Where does energy come from? - Robin O'Reliant
>> How much would a lightbulb have cost in the 1800s in comparison to buying a
>> lightbulb today.
>>
You'll have to be more specific. Main beam, brake light, indicator?
 Where does energy come from? - fluffy
Lightbulb for the living room.

Invented by Philips or Edison or Swann.
 Where does energy come from? - No FM2R
I don;t know who invented them for the living room.

If you mean Swan, he invented them for the Theatre, Edison made them for a boat, and Philips made them for BHS and other retailers.

I'm not clear who made them for the living room, although Lord Cardigan used to have a whole brigade of people responsible for light, so may be it was him.

Having said that the term "Living Room" wasn't really used until the early 20th century, so maybe nobody invented a light bulb for it. Maybe its just reusing a light bulb intended for somewhere else.
Last edited by: No FM2R on Sun 1 May 16 at 21:29
 Where does energy come from? - Robin O'Reliant
Four candles, or fork handles?

That is the question.
 Where does energy come from? - legacylad
And you know what
I don't know
 Where does energy come from? - Cliff Pope
www.enchantedlearning.com/inventors/edison/lightbulb.shtml

The first light bulb was made by Humphry Davy in 1800, powered by a battery.

Glow worms are believed to have been collected and used for lighting from very early human times. They were free - you just had to go out at dusk and pick them up.
 Where does energy come from? - fluffy
Where does the battery originate from.
 Where does energy come from? - Dog
>>Where does the battery originate from.

= en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_battery
 Where does energy come from? - Ambo
I don't know, but sometimes you invite assault.
 Where does energy come from? - smokie
Fluffy, feel free to try Googling yourself once in a while, it really does work... :-)
 Where does energy come from? - Harleyman
>> Fluffy, feel free to try Googling yourself once in a while, it really does work...
>> :-)
>>


To save fluffy the trouble.....

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fluffy
 Where does energy come from? - CGNorwich
Pound shop normally.
 Where does energy come from? - legacylad
Can you buy hens to go with them at Poundland?
 Where does energy come from? - Harleyman
>> Can you buy hens to go with them at Poundland?
>>


I suspect that more batteries end up in rabbits than they do in hens.
 Where does energy come from? - legacylad
I sincerely hope you are talking about the Duracell bunnies....
Almost spat out a mouthful of Yorkshire Tea when I read that. V funny.
 Where does energy come from? - Lygonos
Scotland's wind turbines produced enough electricity to cover 75% of it's needs in April.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-36187324
 Where does energy come from? - CGNorwich
>> Scotland's wind turbines produced enough electricity to cover 75% of it's needs in April.
>>
>> www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-36187324
>>

No didn't. It produed enough electricity to power 79% of average Scottish households which is not the same thing. It does not include industrial consumption.

It should also be noted that it is an average. As it says on some days it was equivalent 100% so on some days the figure was a lot lower than 79%
 Where does energy come from? - CGNorwich
In 2012 Scottish electricity consumption was

42% Domestic Households
58% Industry and Commerce.

 Where does energy come from? - Lygonos
Hmm - different source for figures here -'official' Govt ones - taking domestic and industrial into account - 57.7% electricity demand from renewables (approx 70% wind and 30% hydro)

www.gov.scot/Resource/0049/00498583.pdf
 Where does energy come from? - Roger.

>>
>> Having said that the term "Living Room" wasn't really used until the early 20th century,
>> so maybe nobody invented a light bulb for it. Maybe its just reusing a light
>> bulb intended for somewhere else.
>>
If we have a living room, surely we should have a dying room too?

(Illuminated by a spirit lamp, perhaps?)
 Where does energy come from? - Dog
China had dying rooms. Due to their one-child policy, they had 'orphanages' where you could take children to die of thirst or starvation.

It was illegal to kill your child directly (as in to stab or shoot them) but it was not illegal to kill them through neglect.
~Wiki.

Bar stewards of the first magnitude!
 Where does energy come from? - fluffy
What comes after the light bulb.

Please help.
 Where does energy come from? - Old Navy
A bulb produces tulips and daffodils.
 Where does energy come from? - Lygonos
It's also the squeezy bit on an ear drop dispenser.
 Where does energy come from? - Ted

Also the squeezy rubber end on an old car horn.............................parp!
 Where does energy come from? - Lygonos
Try these as nightlights for your young daughters - keep the nightmares at bay...

tinyurl.com/nightlights-for-girls

tinyurl.com/nightlights-for-girls2

Nice.
 Where does energy come from? - No FM2R
Fluffy, I think you don't understand;

The EU ruled against the use of incandescent light bulbs because their anger was using too much electricity. Because of that there weren't enough ohms to go around. Obviously that pushed up the price of ohms and caused people to buy them even when they didn't need them, primarily so that they could rent them out to the ohmless.

The trouble was that that meant ohms were scarce and so the prices went up.

The insistence from the EU that we should use less ohms, or at least share the ohms we do have with more people, has caused the price of electricity to drop, so there is less profit in renting out ohms, BTL ohm ownership has reduced and so there are less people ohmless than they were before.

Knowing this I am very surprised that you are considering voting against being members of the EU. Obviously this will increase secondary ohm ownership causing more and more ohmless amongst the poor.

Why are you doing such a terrible thing?

Please explain.
 Where does energy come from? - fluffy
Is it true that ordinary light bulbs are being replaced by LED light bulbs.
 Where does energy come from? - No FM2R
Why do you never answer anybody else's questions?

Please explain.
 Where does energy come from? - fluffy
What exactly do you mean.

Please explain.
 Where does energy come from? - Bromptonaut
>> What exactly do you mean.

If I were you I'd ignore NoFM2R. He seems to be going for you in the way of a playground bully.
 Where does energy come from? - Armel Coussine
>> If I were you I'd ignore NoFM2R. He seems to be going for you in the way of a playground bully.

I have a strong impression that that's just what fluffy wants. He doesn't bruise easily and is winding FMR up.
 Where does energy come from? - Old Navy
I didn't know you could spell Zero with three f's.
 Where does energy come from? - fluffy
I am not Zero.

I am who I said I am. That is fluffy.
 Where does energy come from? - Old Navy
Aye right.
Last edited by: Old Navy on Sun 8 May 16 at 14:49
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