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Thread Author: zippy Replies: 51

 New Puppy - zippy
On Friday we collected a new puppy.

She's a 9 week old cavapoo - a poodle and king Charles spaniel cross. She has more of the traits of a poodle. She's as bright as a button.

When we went to view her, there were a few of the litter left and a striking pewter coloured pooch was all over me but this tiny teddy-bear brown puppy with a white "mask" on her face - was besotted with Mrs Z and visa-versa.

We picked her up and drove 2 hours home. She was in a dog crate and Mrs Z sat next to her. There was not a whimper all the way home.

We carried her in to the house in her car crate and opened it up. She stayed there for a few hours despite placing food and drink just outside the crate. When she finally ventured out, she hid at the side of the sofa.

Saturday was totally different. She has been cuddling with Mrs Z and showing off some tricks that she knows. Miss Z drove along from Hampshire to visit and pupster took to her instantly.

Pupster has been playing fetch, trying to remove socks, puppy biting (stops instantly when we say "ouch"). She is very active now.

She is extremely affectionate and warmly greets all visitors. She is also confident and obedient and unlike previous pooch is not fussy food wise.

Potty training wise - she's almost there 8/10 times she has used the puppy mats.

There are a couple of little problems - her separation anxiety kicks in from about 20 seconds. She also howls / cries at night in her crate - so any tips re this would be much appreciated.
 New Puppy - Zero
There are three known strategies, all of them mostly work.

1/ The brutal option, ignore the noise, it does stop eventually
2/ The temporary camp bed next to the crate, moving it further away each night, takes about 7 nights.
3/ The large cuddly toy in the crate.

Good to see you are using crate training.


Lost my older girl last month. So eyeing my cage currently resting in the shed, wondering what to fill it with. Fancy a Goldie/Border collie X
 New Puppy - ORB>>
Lost my older girl last month. So eyeing my cage currently resting in the shed, wondering what to fill it with. Fancy a Goldie/Border collie X

We have Blodwen our Bearded Collie father Border collie mother and beware what you wish for. She'll be 10 on the 1st of May and still needs LOTS of excercise and stimulation.
We are not the owners.. we ARE the sheep...
Very affectionate and welcoming to all.

Howled like a banshee in the back of the car in her cage when leaving the farm in mid wales. (we got her at 12 weeks old. We thought before that was too early.

Not happy in the cage at home, but she soon cured us of that!
Last edited by: ORB>> on Mon 2 Feb 26 at 13:11
 New Puppy - Zero

>> We have Blodwen our Bearded Collie father Border collie mother and beware what you wish
>> for. She'll be 10 on the 1st of May and still needs LOTS of excercise
>> and stimulation.

Fully aware of the traits of such a x breed, and is under consideration for my dog sport hobbies, KC and FCI obedience, and Agility, hence the "sparky" requirement. My young working goldie is, errr, "keen"
 New Puppy - ORB>>
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Blodwen waiting for me to go and pick up the stick she brought back so far...
Last edited by: ORB>> on Mon 2 Feb 26 at 15:18
 New Puppy - Dog
My 11 year young English pointer: ibb.co/5hFZgCyB
 New Puppy - Clk Sec
That's a beauty!
 New Puppy - MD
Was that Evie that has passed Zero?
 New Puppy - Zero
Yup 13. years and 2 months old, pancreatic cancer.
 New Puppy - MD
I remember when you got her. Dogs lives are so criminally short. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if they had a life span like ours.
 New Puppy - Fullchat
Hot (warm) water bottle in the crate?
 New Puppy - bathtub tom
>>She also howls / cries at night in her crate - so any tips re this would be much appreciated.

If you want to train her, ignore her.
If you want her to train you, move her to your bedroom (as most dog owners seem to do nowadays).
 New Puppy - Robbie34
I have been guilty of this with all of my Cockers. When I got my first Cocker Spaniel over fifty years ago he was left in his basket in the kitchen when I went to bed. He howled and threw himself at the door and eventually I went downstairs and brought him to bed.
The came thing happened the next night and so he came to bed with me for the rest of his life.
Consequently, all of my Cockers have slept in my bedroom as do my present two.
 New Puppy - Robin O'Reliant
>>
>>
>> If you want to train her, ignore her.
>> If you want her to train you, move her to your bedroom (as most dog
>> owners seem to do nowadays).
>>

Fully agree, I will NOT have a dog in the bedroom.
 New Puppy - Zero

>> Fully agree, I will NOT have a dog in the bedroom.

All of my dogs have always been banned from bedrooms under all circumstances.
 New Puppy - Dog
Having been owned by 8 dogs, I would go along with bathtub's suggestion.

Hot water bottle could get chewed :(
 New Puppy - Paul 1963
Hmm! Personally hate crates, our dogs, currently 10 year old jug and a 16 month old parsons terrier sleep on the end of the bed, there pack animals and need the company of others, our two, and I'm obviously biased are cleaner and more hygienic than a few humans I've meet.
 New Puppy - Robin O'Reliant
>> Hmm! Personally hate crates, our dogs, currently 10 year old jug and a 16 month
>> old parsons terrier sleep on the end of the bed,
>>

What about when you want "Thingy"?
 New Puppy - smokie
He kicks the wife out for 20 minutes :-)
 New Puppy - Paul 1963
>> What about when you want "Thingy"?
>>
There politely asked to leave the room for a couple of minutes :)
Last edited by: VxFan on Mon 9 Feb 26 at 13:52
 New Puppy - zippy
>> >> What about when you want "Thingy"?
>> >>
>> There politely asked to leave the room for a couple of minutes :)
>>

That long? :-D
Last edited by: zippy on Mon 2 Feb 26 at 22:10
 New Puppy - R.P.
I cured our Springer by lying next to him and going...."Shhhhhhhh" for about 10 mins, worked like a dream, even at the ripe old age 12 it still soothed him. The current Cocker responds to it, when on my lap. Separation anxiety is difficult...the fostered Cocker was pretty bad, Archie doesnt give a fig and goes to his crate when I put my jacket on abnd wave the car keys, which he hates....!
 New Puppy - R.P.
No dogs in the ground floor bedroom he understands this. He loves his cage, it's left open all day and night - he retires there at 11.00pm....
 New Puppy - zippy
The fabric car crate went back in to the car this evening and a metal crate was erected and fitted with a plastic floor and really nice soft bed.

Puppster was introduced to the crate and began to shake uncontrollably and howled. She was clearly terrified.

We had to get the car crate back from the car, but it's too small to be a permanent solution.

 New Puppy - Zero
So its not being crated thats an issue, just the new one. You need to train it, treats inside, cuddly toy, play wityh a toy or treats just outside the cage, lure the pup with treats to oput its head in. Gently gently bit by bit.
 New Puppy - R.P.
Our Springer joined my old Working Cocker. The Working Cocker was re-homed in 2008 at 18 months. He'd rarely been in a car and hardly ever been for a walk on a lead. He took to his crate straight away and took to walking reasonably on a lead quite quickly. In Nov 2011 he was joined by the Springer who was a pup. One of the first nights the pup was put in the crate with no issues. He was shut in, I got sick of the howling and went down to do the "shhhhhhhh" thing, I opened the crate and let him out for a pee. When I came back to the house, WC was in the crate ad the pup was on the WC's bed. And thus it remained. Crate was put away and they slept on their separate beds. I forget how easy the Springer was to live with. No seprartion anxiety, no destruction when he he grew up ! Morphed himself to our lifestyle...

I was a bit worried about them loose in the car and got a bespoke wooden crate for Mrs RP's Mini Clubvan.(made by a local proper countryman, with gun dogs) - eventually this was morphed to proper bespoke TransK9 crates, bought and sold for various BMWs and Volvos. We ended up with a single K9 crate specific fit for the Audi. The current dog won't go in the car let alone the crate ! That was bought second hand for a hefty price but still cheaper than new, flogged it a few months ago for the same as we paid for it.

The dog will sort itself out and will do what it feels happy with and hopefully bring joy to your life. As Humph said many years ago about his dog....they are (generally) simple souls.

Good to see you back Zippy
 New Puppy - R.P.
oh....! The WC slept soundly from day 2. We later found he had a big interest in hot water botltes and er....ticking bedisde clocks. An old hand told me he'd probably had these as a comfort when a pup. He said ir was that the HWB simulated his mother's bpdy and a muffled tcking clock her heartbeat. He was a wonderfull dog and I really miss him. After 18 months with us Archie the current WC has developed into a fantastic dog, beautiful nature and a cuddle monster. He steals slippers and shoes (off my foot once) is razor blade sharp, and distantly related to Alf...
 New Puppy - Bromptonaut
RP.

Would that be Alf who emailed me when I started volunteering at CA?
 New Puppy - R.P.
Yes, it was ! He had his own account. I actually e-mailed a BBC radio programme with that name and it was broadcast ! :-)
 New Puppy - Bromptonaut
>> Yes, it was ! He had his own account. I actually e-mailed a BBC radio
>> programme with that name and it was broadcast ! :-)

When we were with Demon internet we had a domain with multiple email addresses.

The children's teddies, blue ted and lemon ted, each had one.

Mrs B's brother couldn't quite get his head around that.
Last edited by: Bromptonaut on Wed 4 Feb 26 at 08:52
 New Puppy - zippy
>> When we were with Demon internet we had a domain with multiple email addresses.
>>
>> The children's teddies, blue ted and lemon ted, each had one.
>>

I find that quite endearing.
 New Puppy - MD
We’ve just bought a Cocker pup having had Labs (some working) all our married lives (45) years.
We’ve been with out a pooch for over 2 years and at last decided to commit once more. The only stipulation was NO PUPS. However Murphy is here and he’s an endearing little so (d) ul. Dark brown with a white bib and various other bits of white about him. He’s as bright as a button at 9 weeks old and will retrieve a ball to hand already. But mischief is his forte.

As for sleeping arrangements he’s in an indoor crate, which could house a Lab’ if necessary. We’re using old towels for bedding with puppy pads under. Swmbo bought a toy puppy, pretty much Murphy’s size, as a comforter. It has a beating heart and a warm pad if one chooses to use it. We can’t get him to pee/poo on a pad and currently he goes just about anywhere. We can’t remember such issues with the labs, but that was a lifetime ago. Any tips would be gratefully received.
 New Puppy - Zero
Ah! A spanner! are you in for a shock after the labs. Personally I wouldnt pad train*, it does not teach any sense of waiting or suitable location. In the morning, straight out the cage, and straight outdoors for toileting. at the first body language sign they are going - stuff them outdoors. 9 weeks is very young still so dont despair.

* if you do use a pad, as near to the back door as practical
 We' - R.P.
Archie the WC signs well when he wants to go out, sits by the front door or paws me. We've had to learn his language.
 We' - ORB>>
Blodwen came to the bedroom one night and nudged me when she was younger,, (I sleep on my side facing the edge of the bed. I said go away.. so she did.. She came back and nidged me again.. Go AWAY..
Got up in the morning and went to the bathroom and a present on the bathroom floor. Went to my wardrobe in the spare bedroom and another present on the floor.

Happily we had solid oak floors everywhere and vinyl in the bathroom.
After that I get up, but now she has her various looks and stances to tell us what to do.
Trained us nicely.
 We' - ChrisM
We are on Westies number 5 & 6 now. We got number 6 around 16 months ago - possibly just under a year old and a Welsh puppy farm rescue who it's thought wouldn't get pregnant.
She has a lot of character and has settled in very well but with the one failing that she doesn't tell us when she needs to go out. If she is giving us a signal, it's not one we've picked up on. We just have to remember to kick her out every few hours. Having said that, she comes and wakes me at night if she needs to go and we've left her at home for 6/7 hours without any mishaps.
Last edited by: ChrisM on Sat 7 Feb 26 at 18:25
 Two Weeks In.... - zippy
Two very long weeks :-D

Pupster is a handful. She's so much more active than our previous pooch. She's smarter too, which means that constant vigilance is required. We've had to build a "fort" around the TV unit to stop her exploring around the cables.

Food wise, she eats anything - such a difference from the previous pooch who was incurably fussy.

Play wise, she's got throw and fetch sorted with Mrs Z but not with me. If I throw a toy, she retrieves it then hides it from me - Mrs Z thinks that she thinks I'll keep it!

She's very affectionate with no real favourites - whoever has a spare lap is fair game.

We've had to give her a bath a couple of times - absolutely no problem, unlike previous pooch who turned in to a vicious gremlin.

Journeys by car have been great.

There are a few problems that we are working on - she poops if she's anxious - often no where near a puppy pad - usually when everyone leaves the room and she's alone.

She can't do stairs yet; she's terrified of them - she was raised on one floor and we have a split level home with lounge, kitchen and dining room on the top floor.

She's totally focused on food. I used to enjoy having lunch on the sofa whilst watching the news. This is not currently possible unless pooch is in her cage. She jumped up, stole and consumed a soft boiled egg from me on Friday!
 Two Weeks In.... - ORB>>
she eats anything.. If we're eating it Blodwen wants it (but doesn't get everything}

She's very affectionate with no real favourites - whoever has a spare lap is fair game. Ditto !

Blodwen does not like being washed, but will tolerate. Does like being brushed though.


Journeys by car have been great. Blodwen is Little Miss Stoic. Buses, trains, London Underground and boats, zero problem.


She's totally focused on food. We have to send her away but she "creeps"
Not sure two daughters was'nt easier...
 Two Weeks In.... - Dog
>>She jumped up, stole and consumed a soft boiled egg from me on Friday!

Back in the day, wifey got 2 frozen turkey steaks out of the freezer and placed them on the worktop.

Phone rings goes to answer it, Rhodesian Ridgeback scoffs the lot.

Back in the day 2 - Beauceron (French Shepherd) nicks chicken leg orf wifey's plate.

Dogs, doncha just love 'em.
 Two Weeks In.... - CGNorwich

>> Dogs, doncha just love ‘em

No not at all but everyone else seems to. :-)
 Two Weeks In.... - smokie
Not everyone :-)
 Two Weeks In.... - Zero
>> Not everyone :-)

Inc Donald Trump, he hates dogs. Conclusions below please

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Last edited by: Zero on Tue 17 Feb 26 at 08:56
 Two Weeks In.... - CGNorwich
Hitler and Stalin had dogs.
 Two Weeks In.... - Zero
>> Hitler

He killed it, Blondie, and her pups.
 Two Weeks In.... - CGNorwich
Most pet dogs meet their end by being killed on behalf of their owners.
 Two Weeks In.... - Zero
>> Most pet dogs meet their end by being killed on behalf of their owners.

Guily as charged this year, however in my defence It was a humane act, and I was not crazy and shut in my berlin bunker
 Two Weeks In.... - Bromptonaut
>> Guily as charged this year, however in my defence It was a humane act, and
>> I was not crazy and shut in my berlin bunker

I think in most cases it's a humane act to ease suffering.

Occasionally a dog gone rogue and reactive with people.
 Two Weeks In.... - ORB>>

I think in most cases it's a humane act to ease suffering.

3 recent cases here. All neighbours pets.

Elderly tom cat, Cancer of the jaw. Put to sleep.

Blodwens playfriend a proper welsh collie, ( 6 or 7 years old) but was the runt of the litter serious heart condition but still goes walkies very slowly. Owners gettinng him treated but have been warned that there will come a time when putting him to sleep will be the kinder option.

Another Black lab cancer (now put to sleep)

We can do that for our pets, They give us so much.
 Two Weeks In.... - BiggerBadderDave
'I think in most cases it's a humane act to ease suffering.'

Absolutely.

Advanced dementia and immobile with mother, cancer, amputation and various other bits with father.

Any vets up for doing a foreigner?
 Two Weeks In.... - CGNorwich
I think you’r better off with plants rather than animals. Easier to look after, Don’t need to exercise them. Much nicer looking, cheaper to maintain, don’t make your house and car smell, and just put them in the compost bin bin when you’re tired of them
 Two Weeks In.... - Robin O'Reliant
>> I think you’r better off with plants rather than animals. Easier to look after, Don’t
>> need to exercise them. Much nicer looking, cheaper to maintain, don’t make your house and
>> car smell, and just put them in the compost bin bin when you’re tired of
>> them
>>


That's also a great argument for not having children.
 Two Weeks In.... - BiggerBadderDave
'That's also a great argument for not having children.'

None of mine were planned (and one was with a Czech hooker).
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