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Thread Author: bathtub tom	Replies: 60

New Fri 3 Apr 26 17:06   Artemis moon mission - bathtub tom

I can't understand all the fuss and extensive new coverage about this mission. A man was put on the moon fifty-odd years ago, then it was newsworthy. I suppose you have to be over sixty to remember it and all the current hype is to pander to anyone younger. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 3 Apr 26 18:09   Artemis moon mission - Andrew-T

The novelty is that someone (or a few) are going to look at the far side which never faces the earth. An unmanned craft has sent back pics before, but it's a first for human eyes. What puzzles me a bit is the pic at lunchtime today showing a crescent moon? The moon is full just now (i.e. facing the sun) and will be like that for a day or two. ?? Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 3 Apr 26 18:25   Artemis moon mission - Zero

>> The moon is full just now (i.e. facing the sun) and will be like that >> for a day or two. ?? Only from your point of view on earth Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 3 Apr 26 23:11   Artemis moon mission - Andrew-T

<< Only from your point of view on earth No sir. The sun is 93 million miles from us, and the moon only a quarter of a million. The full moon is facing the sun just now, so the spacecraft would need to travel quite some distance to notice much difference in the moon's appearance. Once it sets off towards the moon (as I think it now has) that will start to happen. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 3 Apr 26 18:24   Artemis moon mission - Zero

>> I can't understand all the fuss and extensive new coverage about this mission. It makes the yanks feel superior, Trump will take all the credit and blame Biden and Obama if it ends in disaster. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 3 Apr 26 18:41   Artemis moon mission - tyrednemotional

Apparently, the crew have stated that they would have struggled with the cramped conditions, crappy food and having to poo in a bag if they hadn't undertaken the Ryanair acclimatisation flights. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 3 Apr 26 20:19   Artemis moon mission - Zero

Lets hope they have a softer landing than Ryan Air. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 3 Apr 26 20:29   Artemis moon mission - tyrednemotional

Given that splashdown is (I think) scheduled for The Pacific, emulating Ryanair's advertising practice it'll probably land in The Black Sea (or if they're really lucky, The Strait of Hormuz). ;-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 3 Apr 26 22:10   Artemis moon mission - Ted

. I suppose you >> have to be over sixty to remember it and all the current hype is to >> pander to anyone younger. 20th July 1969....I think I remember it. Tubby. My current wife, the Ayatollah Ann, and I had been married at Manchester Cathedral the previous day. Didn't make the nat ionals, though ! I often joke that I'd wished she had been with them but she still hangs around here...bless ! Ted Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 3 Apr 26 22:28   Artemis moon mission - Bromptonaut

I was 9 years and seven months and in love with an eight year old blonde girl in the year below. Dad allowed us to watch the landing but we'd no knowledge of the 'one step for man' until we heard it on the radio the following morning. Mrs B who, for the avoidance of doubt, was not the blonde mentioned above was awoken, along with her siblings, by her Father to see Armstrong step off the LEM. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 4 Apr 26 05:59   Artemis moon mission - Duncan

>> Dad allowed us to watch the landing but we'd no knowledge of the 'one step >> for man' until we heard it on the radio the following morning. Which, of course, he got wrong! Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 4 Apr 26 09:27   Artemis moon mission - John F

I doubt if this ranks as one of the few significant 'always remember when and where you were' events. I have only three....JFK assassination (standing by school dining hall) moon landing (fairground/bar holiday job at Pwllheli Butlins) and twin towers (watching kitchenTV). Too young to appreciate the first astronaut......I doubt if many Americans know his name. Perhaps they will be astonished to see a Chinese iridium mine on the dark side... Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 4 Apr 26 10:26   Artemis moon mission - Andrew-T

<< ... twin towers (watching kitchen TV) . >> Exactly what I was doing, J-F. JFK assassination : on SWMBO's birthday, and I was just finding my feet in a Canadian university lab a few months after finishing my PhD. Last edited by: Andrew-T on Sat 4 Apr 26 at 10:26 Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 4 Apr 26 11:35   Artemis moon mission - Duncan

JFK. Having tea or possibly evening meal in our first flat, not long after getting married. Moon Landing. Watched the landing at home. Discussed the walk in the bank the next morning. (Were we on three day week, or something then?) Twin Towers. Just coming back home home after an airport run, I think. Got indoors, turned TV oin and watched it. The phone wouldn't stop ringing with people saying "have you heard the news, seen the TV?" All American, of course. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 4 Apr 26 13:08   Artemis moon mission - Duncan

I must have a brain storm with my recollection of the moon walk stuff. The three day week was in 1974. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 4 Apr 26 11:45   Artemis moon mission - PeterS

JFK assassination - before I was born. Moon landing - before I was born. Twin Towers - asleep. We lived in Japan and it happened overnight for us. The only other memorable day for me is August ‘97 when Diana died - not because I was an ardent Diana fan, but because of the global reach of that event. I learnt about it the following day on a bus in Slovenia when I read someone’s paper over their shoulder :) Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 4 Apr 26 12:26   Artemis moon mission - Robin O'Reliant

I remember where I was when I heard about all the big events from JFK on, with the exception of the moon landing which I have no memory of at all. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 4 Apr 26 12:29   Artemis moon mission - Zero

Kenedy? very young but remember it because my parents were so shocked, meant nothing to me. Moon Landing, yeah stayed up to watch on TV. - now that was a big big thing, who the hell would have thought back then that you would be watching men land on the moon and wandering around, all on live global TV. Twin Towers? now that was a shocker, I was at a conference, it came to a halt and we watched it live on a big cinema sized screen. Only WW3 would phaze me now. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 4 Apr 26 14:06   Artemis moon mission - legacylad

>> other memorable day for me is August ‘97 when Diana died - not because I >> was an ardent Diana fan, I was in a private room at Airedale hospital having had a procedure done saturday AM. Vividly remember my breakfast being late as all the catering staff were glued to the TV. I’ve never forgiven her, although in fairness I cannot remember what I ate for breakfast, although I was ravenous. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 4 Apr 26 19:39   Artemis moon mission - smokie

I remember them all in one way or another, moon landing rather vague but I remember the TV footage of Kennedy being shot vividly (though not in colour!) - I can still see it. Di - the kids came running n and woke us up with the news. Twin Towers - was at work overseeing some engineers installing server kit in a Holiday Inn near Luton - I watched unfold on TV there then rushed home to watch it live on Sky finished the job as quick as I could. On one of my solo trips to the US I went to Dealey Plaza in Dallas and stood very briefly on the spot in the middle of the very busy road where JFK died (X marks the spot!!), and visited the book repository and all the other tourist stuff. Always had something of an interest in it, for no good reason other than the footage stuck in my mind. Last edited by: smokie on Sat 4 Apr 26 at 19:40 Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 4 Apr 26 22:28   Artemis moon mission - bathtub tom

Don't forget, John Peel was the man on the grassy mound! Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 5 Apr 26 00:43   Artemis moon mission - expat2

JFK - I was working at my first job Moon landing - the whole family stayed up to watch it on TV Twin towers - I was in Bangkok airport on a stop over when it came up on the TV. I then got on a plane and flew over Afghanistan to Europe. Diana - we were at a Sunday barbecue when someone told us. Artemis - yawn. Been there, seen that. No big deal to do again what was done 50+ years ago. Just a stunt to beat the Chinese to it. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 5 Apr 26 07:04   Artemis moon mission - hjd

JFK - I remember being on a school coach going to the swimming baths and seeing the posters for the Evening Standard saying KENNEDY SHOT PICTURES and wondering why someone taking photos should be a headline. I was 6 years old at the time, in my defence. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 5 Apr 26 07:26   Artemis moon mission - ORB>>>

JFK, watching the telly and news came on. I said "he's dead" .. told off by dad. Moon landing. was walking through wolverhampton and some people at their door invited me to see the tv new. 9/11 was having a kip and mate woke me up.. look at the telly.. in time to see first tower fall. Much more imortnant than all of those was seeing my second daughter born dec 1982. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 5 Apr 26 08:32   Artemis moon mission - Bromptonaut

November 63 I was a fortnight short of my fourth birthday and at my Gran's house. I was aware from the disrupted TV schedule and adult reaction something massive had happened but not its significance. I can remember his brother's assassination in 68. We we on holiday staying in a guest house in Cornwall and could hear a radio in the kitchen. Dad was sufficiently interested in current affairs to command silence form the test of us while the details were being set out. Apollo 11 I've already covered. Diana, I'd got up as I normally did on a non work day and put the radio on while boiling the kettle. Seemed to take me an age to work out which Princess had died and my mind first alighted on Anne, in practice only a second or two. 9/11 I was at work. Another year or so before we had internet access at all desktops and first inkling was when my manager's wife rang to tell him of breaking news. Only upon leaving the office at 5pm and seeing people crowded round Berrys in Holborn watching TVs in the window did the magnitude sink in. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 5 Apr 26 12:47   Artemis moon mission - Duncan

Artemis Moon mission. I can't see what all the fuss is about. Man landed on the moon and walked about a bit (well, sort of hopped about, really) ages ago. Lady Di. Can't remember where I was, or what I was doing. Poor woman certainly made some bad life choices. Always wear your seat belt. Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 6 Apr 26 21:22   Artemis moon mission - R.P.

Apollo 8 and 13 certainly orbited the moon and 13 certainly past the dark side in order to slingshot home due to the problems they encountered. More than one media outlet said specifically that this was the first tie such a thing had happened. I recall 13 going out of contact for some time as it orbited via the dark-side, and BBC explaining that this was due to the Command module and lunar lander having to sling shot to gain sufficient speed to return to Earth as quickly as possible. Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 6 Apr 26 22:27   Artemis moon mission - bathtub tom

>>Apollo 8 and 13 certainly orbited the moon I thought the command modules of the Apollo missions must have orbited the moon. Just more American, misinformation, trumpet blowing. ISTR there was at least one Russian space attempt before Gagarin that resulted in a 'lost' astronaut, that they tried to keep quiet. Wouldn't they have been the human that travelled furthest from the earth? Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 6 Apr 26 23:09   Artemis moon mission - Manatee

Yes they did. Apollo 11 was there between 2 and 3 days and did about 30 orbits roughly 40 miles above the surface. It was captured in an elliptical orbit which was modified to be more circular so it could launch the lander, and obvs had to orbit until Aldrin and Armstrong returned. Whether they got as far 'behind' the moon or over the same areas as Artemis I don't know. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Apr 26 12:12   Artemis moon mission - R.P.

Whether they got as far 'behind' the moon or over the same areas as Artemis I don't know. I wondered about that and accepted that as a "fact" The current BBC Science editor is a mere shadow of the guys who reported on the moon landings back in day - James Burke, Patrick Moore on BBC and Peter Farley on iTV I dug out my Magpie (Superior to Blue Peter in my view) ABC of Space book. It has a photo of the dark's side surface taken by Apollo 8. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Apr 26 14:04   Artemis moon mission - bathtub tom

Was that it? Looped once around the moon and now coming back. I'm underwhelmed. Perhaps it was all hyped to keep other news in the background? Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Apr 26 14:35   Artemis moon mission - Bromptonaut

>> Was that it? Looped once around the moon and now coming back. I'm underwhelmed. Pretty much exactly what Apollo 8 did in 1968. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Apr 26 15:05   Artemis moon mission - Robin O'Reliant

>> Was that it? Looped once around the moon and now coming back. I'm underwhelmed. >> >> Perhaps it was all hyped to keep other news in the background? >> As a columnist wrote in the Guardian this morning, "What is the point of going into space? Nothing to see, nothing to do". Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Apr 26 11:30   Artemis moon mission - Zero

>> ISTR there was at least one Russian space attempt before Gagarin that resulted in a >> 'lost' astronaut, that they tried to keep quiet. Its a theory, not backed up by any facts. Both sides have certainly killed a few. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 4 Apr 26 12:26   Yuri Gagarin orbits earth - bathtub tom

I stayed up late to watch this and fell asleep in French the next day at school. Fortunately the French teacher had also watched it and I got off lightly. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 4 Apr 26 22:33   Yuri Gagarin orbits earth - Fullchat

The Artemis crew hold the record for the furthest humans away from Trump. :) Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 5 Apr 26 09:31   Yuri Gagarin orbits earth - Falkirk Bairn

Yuro Gagarin in space - I was 14, finishing 3rd year in Secondary. All I can remember was grey & white pictures in the TV & newspapers. Kennedy shot - I was playing snooker at the local YMCA - They charged pennies, the snooker hall charged 10p (2 shillings on old money) for an hour + a bus fare there and back. My pocket money was very modest Moon Landing - I had just graduated and was working as a postie - 5am starts and supposed to finish before 2pm. Not enough posties - short staffed. Desparate for some money I might finish about 5pm+ go home, eat & sleep until 4.30 am to get to work by 5am. Twin Towers - Standing outside a customer's premises around 13.30 having just sold to a new customer. My first new customer that year. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 5 Apr 26 11:24   Yuri Gagarin orbits earth - Zero

Princess Di? not really bothered, illicited a mere shrug from me - Seemed to me to be an inevitable ending - followed by annoyance at the days of saturated press coverage, worsened by fake me too outpourings of public grief. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 5 Apr 26 12:09   Yuri Gagarin orbits earth - Ted

>> Princess Di? not really bothered, illicited a mere shrug from me - Seemed to me >> to be an inevitable ending - followed by annoyance at the days of saturated press >> coverage, worsened by fake me too outpourings of public grief. >> Me too, felt sorry for her from the start. when she was picked out as the brood mare for the Royals. She would have been a lot happier as a kids nanny. Ted Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 5 Apr 26 13:01   Yuri Gagarin orbits earth - Bromptonaut

>> Princess Di? not really bothered, illicited a mere shrug from me - Seemed to me >> to be an inevitable ending - followed by annoyance at the days of saturated press >> coverage, worsened by fake me too outpourings of public grief. Of only they'd let him marry Camilla first time around. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 5 Apr 26 23:21   Yuri Gagarin orbits earth - Andrew-T

<< If only they'd let him marry Camilla first time around. >> Not on, old boy - Catholic ! Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 6 Apr 26 08:56   Yuri Gagarin orbits earth - Bromptonaut

>> Not on, old boy - Catholic ! Is she? Wiki doesn't say so and states she was baptised at a parish church in Firle, Sussex. I thought the issue was that she wasn't a virgin due to her relationship with Parker Bowles who, by the time she and Charles got together had reportedly been seeing Princess Anne. EDIT: Seems she married APB in a Catholic ceremony but didn't convert. Last edited by: Bromptonaut on Mon 6 Apr 26 at 08:58 Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 6 Apr 26 12:54   Yuri Gagarin orbits earth - Andrew-T

<< EDIT: Seems she married APB in a Catholic ceremony but didn't convert. >> Probably enough to tip the balance ? Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 6 Apr 26 13:57   Yuri Gagarin orbits earth - Bromptonaut

>> Probably enough to tip the balance ? That doesn't work as the chronology is wrong. At the time she was deemed unsuitable for Charles she'd yet to marry Parker Bowles!! Most accounts suggest she didn't meet approval from the Duke of Edinburgh and/or Louis Mountbatten and Charles was posted overseas to put a stop to it. Last edited by: Bromptonaut on Mon 6 Apr 26 at 13:59 Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 5 Apr 26 12:03   Yuri Gagarin orbits earth - Ted

9/11. I was with friends in Wooler, Northumberland whilst caravanning at Goswick Sands. The others were in the yard haggling over a Victorian toilet cistern. There was a radio on near me and I caught snatches of something big happening. We headed back to camp, with cistern, and car radio on listening to it all unfold.While caravannimg again, the Ringway aircraft fire took place...good job we've given up ! Ted Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Apr 26 17:33   Yuri Gagarin orbits earth - zippy

9/11 a colleague was on route to the WTC for a meeting - within a mile when the first plane hit. Freaked her out somewhat. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Apr 26 15:42   Artemis moon mission - Boxsterboy

>> I can't understand all the fuss and extensive new coverage about this mission. A man >> was put on the moon fifty-odd years ago, then it was newsworthy. I suppose you >> have to be over sixty to remember it and all the current hype is to >> pander to anyone younger. >> Agree Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Apr 26 16:50   Artemis moon mission - sooty123

>> Agree >> I wonder how many under 60s are particularly interested by this moon mission. Last edited by: VxFan on Wed 8 Apr 26 at 11:13 Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Apr 26 17:52   Artemis moon mission - CGNorwich

“I wonder how many under 60s are particularly interested by this moon mission” Got to be more than interested in old steam engines. :-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Apr 26 20:43   Artemis moon mission - sooty123

>> “I wonder how many under 60s are particularly interested by this moon mission” >> >> Got to be more than interested in old steam engines. :-) >> I suspect with the under 60s that's not a particularly high bar! Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Apr 26 17:07   Artemis moon mission - Zero

>> >> was put on the moon fifty-odd years ago, then it was newsworthy. I suppose 1969. 56 years ago. Are we really supposed to get excited about a mission 56 years later that hasnt even matched that feat? No we aint, 56 years of non progress isnt worth a dime news wise. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Apr 26 20:36   Artemis moon mission - smokie

Well not being a grumpy old f*** I am quite in awe of it. The sheer technological achievement may not be that much different from earlier but I understand more about the humans involved might feel, and the technology, and stuff like the "0 - 60" speed and the speed at which it re-enters - I find it all amazing. And today they've been having "media events" - press conferences from space... Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Apr 26 20:48   Artemis moon mission - Zero

>> the technology, Get out of it, they landed a man on the moon with 32k of 16 bit memory. Today, its a cakewalk. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Apr 26 22:21   Artemis moon mission - bathtub tom

>>Today, its a cakewalk. As long as all 20,000 lowest bid technology parts work OK. Why was the first launch cancelled? Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Apr 26 23:32   Artemis moon mission - smokie

Well yeah, s'pose. Still wouldn't rely on my programming skills to get them there AND back in one piece. or AIs!! :-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 8 Apr 26 10:11   Artemis moon mission - Andrew-T

>> the technology, >> Get out of it, they landed a man on the moon with 32k of 16 bit memory. Today, its a cakewalk. >> Yes, if you happily assume that everything in a pretty complicated system keeps working as planned. The scenario I wonder about is an unintended landing on the far (invisible) side of the moon (probably gravitationally impossible, I agree). But if that happened they couldn't phone home .... Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 8 Apr 26 23:50   Artemis moon mission - zippy

Now that Artemis is on the return leg, we have a couple of days to get "Planet of the Apes" costumes for the entire recovery crew and cameras focusing on the crews faces to catch their surprise. (Idea nicked from the interweb.) Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 9 Apr 26 09:01   Artemis moon mission - Bromptonaut

>> Now that Artemis is on the return leg, we have a couple of days to >> get "Planet of the Apes" costumes for the entire recovery crew and cameras focusing on >> the crews faces to catch their surprise. >> >> (Idea nicked from the interweb.) The talk with Trump was practice for when they meet less intelligent life forms. Also nicked form the interweb. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 11 Apr 26 22:52   Artemis moon mission - zippy

Forgot when they were getting back and see that they got back early this morning without incident which is good news. I'm not sure I would ever want to sit atop several hundred tons of highly explosive fuel to be shot in to space. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 11 Apr 26 23:44   Artemis moon mission - smokie

Or hitting the atmosphere at 25000 mph on your way back!! Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 12 Apr 26 00:18   Artemis moon mission - Terry

Whether on launch or re-entry if things go wrong you would only have time to utter a partial two syllable expletive - "oh bug..........." or similar. No point in worrying!! Reply to this message | Report message