One for Duncan perhaps.
We're having the annual Badgerfest where the village rugger club do lots of beers and stuff.
Today there was the added attraction of a match with a team from Corby.
I must have been taught rugby at the Grammar School 'cos we played. Not ne though; neither the build not the co-ordination.
I know about 5 points for a try and 3 more for a conversion but both teams seemed to get 2 added, possibly after the conversion missed the goal.
What's that about?
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Nearly correct.
"A try is awarded five points. A successful try is awarded with an additional conversion opportunity for two points. If the referee awards a team a penalty they are allowed to kick for the posts for three points. Finally, a player is allowed to attempt a drop-goal in play for three points."
(tinyurl.com/3jfj6uss)
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Too complicated and the reason why, amongst others, that football is the superior game.
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CGN you forgot to add "for mouth breathers incapable of doing sums on their fingers" ;-)
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>> CGN you forgot to add "for mouth breathers incapable of doing sums on their fingers"
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I think the subsequent posts in this thread prove my point. Does anyone know the rules?
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>> Too complicated and the reason why, amongst others, that football is the superior game. >>
You will all remember the statement that Rugby is a game for hooligans played by gentlemen, while 'soccer' is the opposite ?
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The real gentlemens game is cricket which was traditionally played by gentlemen.
They have umpires not referees which reflects their role in making judgements not enforcing rules.
Umpires do have the power to send players off the pitch - in 2025 first class cricket Google tells me no players were forced to return to the pavillion.
In the the Premier League this season 1180 yellow cards (which can accumulate for a match ban) and 39 red cards have been issued.
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Cricket does not have rules. It has laws.
>> The real gentlemens game is cricket which was traditionally played by gentlemen.
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>> They have umpires not referees which reflects their role in making judgements not enforcing rules.
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>> The real gentlemens game is cricket which was traditionally played by gentlemen.
Gentlemen in the sense that they were not professionals?
Gentlemanly behaviour broke down a bit in 1934 if it ever existed, although my knowledge of human nature makes me think there has always been skulduggery of some sort.
In fact I think WG was described as "shameless". Allegedly he refused to leave the field when given out, and gave as his reason something like "They came here to see me batting, not you umpiring".
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>> Nearly correct.
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>> "A try is awarded five points. A successful try is awarded with an additional conversion
>> opportunity for two points. If the referee awards a team a penalty they are allowed
>> to kick for the posts for three points. Finally, a player is allowed to attempt
>> a drop-goal in play for three points."
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>> (tinyurl.com/3jfj6uss)
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Four points for a try. Two points for an after-try conversion. Two points for a penalty. One point for a drop-goal. ;-)
Last edited by: De Sisti on Sun 19 Apr 26 at 07:20
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Apologies if I have posted this before.
As an ex soccer player I find rugby rules to be a minefield of confusion.
When in France I regularly watch TV rugby internationals with an assortment of ex rugby players of varying ages. They all seem to interpret the rules from when they stopped playing. Since there seem to be significant changes every season this can lead to long drawn out discussions which, (for me), never seem to clarify the issues!
De Sisti, where does 4 points for a try come from????
There are however some aspects of the rules that could be applied beneficially to soccer, particularly with regard to referee respect.
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>> De Sisti, where does 4 points for a try come from????
A quick Google suggests 4 for a try is Rugby League.
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Sherlock47 said, and the OP quoted: >> >> De Sisti, where does 4 points for a try come from????
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>> A quick Google suggests 4 for a try is Rugby League.
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I did not ask "Where does 4 poinrts for a try come from????"!
I referred to the points scoring format in rugby league. Please re-read my post.
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>> De Sisti, where does 4 points for a try come from????
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He's referring to Rugby, where as the OP is referring to Rugby Union.
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<< He's referring to Rugby, where as the OP is referring to Rugby Union. >>
No, he is referring to Rugby League, the OP is talking about Rugby - Union if you like, but I am pretty sure that came first, named after the public school which 'invented' it. The layabouts of the north developed League Rugby later.
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>> No, he is referring to Rugby League, the OP is talking about Rugby - Union
>> if you like, but I am pretty sure that came first, named after the public
>> school which 'invented' it. The layabouts of the north developed League Rugby later.
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I suppose it depends on what you are more familiar with, it was always Rugby and the other version was Union.
Of course others may use slight variations on that.
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>> I know about 5 points for a try and 3 more for a conversion but
>> both teams seemed to get 2 added, possibly after the conversion missed the goal.
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>> What's that about?
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Exactly. What is that about?
5 points for a try. Add 2 points if it is converted.
A penalty try is a straight 7 points.
3 points for a successful penalty or dropped goal.
Do you want to know about cards?
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Sherlock47 said, and the OP quoted: >> >> De Sisti, where does 4 points for a try come from????
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>> A quick Google suggests 4 for a try is Rugby League.
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I did not ask "Where does 4 poinrts for a try come from????"!
I referred to the points scoring format in rugby league. Please re-read my post.
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When I was forced to attempt to play RU at school, there were 3 points for a try, and 2 for a conversion. A penalty goal or a dropped goal was also 3 which had a kind of symmetry for me.
I was utter rubbish then and still have little interest in the pig's bladder of whatever shape. The two facts are probably connected.
I have been to Twickenham for corporate hostility purposes several times and failed to follow what was occurring, or to notice that a different scoring system was employed.
Not much interested in watching sport in general, especially team sports involving much in the way of athleticism which as it turns out I was never well equipped for.
Don't mind watching the tennis when Wimblydon is on, or Motorsport, although I've gone off F1.
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>> When I was forced to attempt to play RU at school...
Clearly a West Riding thing!! Rugby was something that was done to me at school!!
Son, raised in Northants has same feelings.
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Fortunately mine was a football and cricket school. Rugby never had any appeal at all.
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>> Fortunately mine was a football and cricket school. Rugby never had any appeal at all.
I was little better at either of those; carpy eye/hand co-ordination did me for anything involving a ball.
But at least neither involved serious physical stuff with lads who were 50% bulkier than me.
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>> >> When I was forced to attempt to play RU at school...
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>> Clearly a West Riding thing!! Rugby was something that was done to me at school!!
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Not in my part of the (former) West Riding. My school was a Football/Hockey/Cricket establishment across the terms.
Enjoyed Football, tolerated Cricket, but Hockey, for god's sake, why.
Certainly not, as played in Boys' schools then, a "girly" game. Dangerous to the extreme with old scores being settled with (not jolly) hockey sticks. And, despite what is now said, not the easiest to adapt to if you're left-handed.
My best mate, however, developed into a very accomplished goalkeeper, playing at County level and above. That always seemed like a dangerous position to me.
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>> Enjoyed Football, tolerated Cricket, but Hockey, for god's sake, why.
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>> Certainly not, as played in Boys' schools then, a "girly" game. Dangerous to the extreme
>> with old scores being settled with (not jolly) hockey sticks. And, despite what is now
>> said, not the easiest to adapt to if you're left-handed.
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We played Shinty, from what I remember a more "Robust" version of hockey, you certainly learnt how to take care of yourself (ie get your blow in first).
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We played mainly football and rugby, the odd attempt at basketball, gaelic football, cricket, cross country, union etc but that was it.
Just mainly swapped between the main two sports, our school produced quite a few pro and semi pro rugby players so was taken pretty seriously.
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One term rugby. One term football. One term cricket, I used to do cross country running when it was cricket.
No question which form of rugby was played. the school/college was in Twickenham, just across the A316 from HQ.
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my school in Bradford was rugby, no soccer although we kicked a ball around in the playground.
Lots of rowing , athletics and I played stand off for the seconds and enjoyed x country…probably why I took up long distance challenge walks with the LDWA after breaking my wrist twice and having to give up racquet sports.
BGS had a pool, and strong swimming & rowing teams , even had 2 squash courts although I never played. Oddly, within 6 months of leaving, I was playing squash 4 nights a week, and 5 a side the other nights.
Still doing my walking…Lakeland LDWA and two groups in Spain.
Played some rugby after school, but never improved beyond the third team, and I soon gave up Sunday AM pub football leagues after being kicked into the air once too often by thugs.
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