Non-motoring > Storage of Rock Salt.	Miscellaneous
Thread Author: R.P.	Replies: 60

New Mon 13 Dec 10 17:44   Storage of Rock Salt. - R.P.

Bought a couple of bags (guilt ridden after pinching a couple of bucket fulls from a council box) any ideas on storage - the slightly illogical conclusion is that I wouldn't want to store this in the garage alongside my beloved bikes - so currently stashed under the central heating oil storage tank. Are they risk to my bikes in the garage or am I mad ? Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 17:50   Storage of Rock Salt. - rtj70

Council grit box? :-) Last edited by: rtj70 on Mon 13 Dec 10 at 17:50 Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 17:51   Storage of Rock Salt. - Iffy

...Council grit box? :-)... Might be too heavy to lift. :) Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 17:55   Storage of Rock Salt. - Skoda

Mine from last year appears to have "gone off", is that even possible? It's clearly not effective but it was great last winter. Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 17:59   Storage of Rock Salt. - FotheringtonTomas

Not unless there's very, very little of it left (the salt having dissolved and run away, the impurities being left behind). Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 17:59   Storage of Rock Salt. - Iffy

...Mine from last year appears to have "gone off", is that even possible? It's clearly not effective but it was great last winter... Could it have been too cold when you tried it? You've had some fierce cold weather in Scotland. My salt has been in a small bin in the back yard for three or four years and still works as it should. Can't see it going off in a year when it survives OK in the ground for several millions of years. Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 18:27   Storage of Rock Salt. - Skoda

>> You've had some fierce cold weather in Scotland. Aye that crossed my mind, my external thermometer's on the blink so i don't know how cold it was. The cat wont go out below -6 and he was heading for the back door at the time... Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 18:02   Storage of Rock Salt. - CGNorwich

Salt does not "go off but it is hygroscopic to a degree and will therefore absorb water from the atmosphere and tend to cake. Best kept in a sealed plastic bag where it will last forever Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 18:24   Storage of Rock Salt. - Skoda

>> but it is hygroscopic to a degree There's a real possibility it's been absorbing moisture all year, i do try to make the shed waterproof and it's stored in an old plastic flip top bin, but you know how it is in gie dreich, i mean bonnie Scotland. Boo :thumbdown: Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 17:58   Storage of Rock Salt. - FotheringtonTomas

Keep it under cover where it won't get rain in it, and where it can drain, just in case (but don't let it drain into your flower beds!). Under the oil tank sounds a good place if it won't get wet. I wouldn't keep it in the garage, either. The last time I looked in a council salt bin, it was full of squished empty plastic bottles and general waste, and the salt was almost entirely in solution. Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 19:21   Storage of Rock Salt. - Zero

>> stashed under the central heating oil storage tank. Its probably chewing away at the tank supports as we speak. Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 19:45   Storage of Rock Salt. - Tooslow

True but the resulting conflagration will clear any ice. John Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 20:15   Storage of Rock Salt. - R.P.

Breeze block and paving slabs....not steel in sight...! :-0 that's given me something else to worry about now... Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 21:26   Storage of Rock Salt. - Runfer D'Hills

You'll be putting up little trellis fences soon. Goes with the territory, mark my words... Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 21:32   Storage of Rock Salt. - R.P.

It ha occurred to me. Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 21:46   Storage of Rock Salt. - Zero

Did the Tudors do little trellis fences? Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 21:48   Storage of Rock Salt. - Iffy

...Did the Tudors do little trellis fences?... No, but the mock-Tudors did mock little trellis fences. Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 21:58   Storage of Rock Salt. - R.P.

Did you know the Tudors originated on Anglesey - there was a cracking little programme about them on the Welsh telly ! Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 22:02   Storage of Rock Salt. - Runfer D'Hills

Ah that explains it, Welsh eh ?...thought there was something not quite right about them...Pointy hat wearing, vowel averse seaweed eaters, not to be trusted. :-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 22:06   Storage of Rock Salt. - Zero

>> Ah that explains it, Welsh eh ?...thought there was something not quite right about them...Pointy >> hat wearing, vowel averse seaweed eaters, not to be trusted. Look You. Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 13 Dec 10 22:04   Storage of Rock Salt. - Iffy

...there was a cracking little programme about them on the Welsh telly !... Is that the black and white half-timbered beam telly? Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 08:25   Storage of Rock Salt. - Cliff Pope

I think it has a shelf life of about 10 million years if stored underground. Always read the label. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 08:56   Storage of Rock Salt. - Hard Cheese

>>currently stashed under the central heating oil storage tank.>> You really dont want to encourage that to corrode. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 09:01   Storage of Rock Salt. - Iffy

...You really dont want to encourage that to corrode... I'm not sure whether to take the OP - and some of the replies - seriously on this one. A bag of rock salt presents no corrosion threat to any piece metal further than an inch from it. If the bag is sealed, it presents no threat at all. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 09:17   Storage of Rock Salt. - R.P.

I am serious - it's a motorcyclists' built in aversion to salty products anywhere near his bike - the garage is heated (which may or may not be a bad thing) the tank is plastic by the way ! The bags are sort of sealed but you "know" that they'll probably have small punctures in them. Genuine question. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 09:24   Storage of Rock Salt. - Iffy

...genuine question... I guessed it was. You could put the bags into a heavy duty plastic rubble or garden refuse sack, just to be on the safe side. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 09:27   Storage of Rock Salt. - R.P.

I have considered that and will probably be my final solution - still - it's not right ! Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 09:30   Storage of Rock Salt. - Iffy

...I have considered that and will probably be my final solution - still - it's not right !... Sometimes in life a man has to make a brave decision. You can do it, I know you can. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 09:30   Storage of Rock Salt. - Zero

>> A bag of rock salt presents no corrosion threat to any piece metal further than >> an inch from it. I have seen salt migrate from a bag by up to 6 inches. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 09:33   Storage of Rock Salt. - Iffy

...I have seen salt migrate from a bag by up to 6 inches... Don't tell him that, we'll be back to square one. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 09:44   Storage of Rock Salt. - Dog

Back in the dog days (Summer) we had a fred about toasters. I bought a nice new one in chrome and cream. The chrome is showing signs of corrosion AND I've just put 2 & 2 2gether ... I use dead sea salt - in a salt cellar ... 6" from the holy ghoster! Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 13:41   Storage of Rock Salt. - Netsur

"I use dead sea salt " That's right - blame the Israelis for everything why don't you - (joke!) Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 13:51   Storage of Rock Salt. - Dog

>>That's right - blame the Israelis for everything why don't you<< I was going to allude to it as being Kosher, but I never realised you can actually buy Kosher Salt :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kosher_Salt.JPG Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 14:02   Storage of Rock Salt. - Netsur

You know I think we should have a thread going with detailed explanations of the Jewish religion. We could keep it going for years. Kosher Salt. Yes. All kosher meat is salted to remove blood. We are forbidden to eat blood. technically if you bite your lip and whilst eating an apple and the blood gets on the apple, you should rinse the apple before taking another bite. Kosher Salt is of a certain coarseness different from table, sea or rock salt I think. You can also buy table salt that happens to be Kosher - as per the Wikipedia photo. Last edited by: Espada III on Tue 14 Dec 10 at 14:03 Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 14:13   Storage of Rock Salt. - Dog

>>All kosher meat is salted to remove blood<< Does that mean you couldn't eat 'rare' cooked meat, which is often bloody? (yuk!) I use Dead Sea / Celtic / even Cornish sea salt because it is un-processed and retains essential minerals. Some people bathe in it, I hear, for its health-giving properties. Bluddie is a swear word :) Last edited by: VxFan on Thu 16 Dec 10 at 13:45 Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 14:23   Storage of Rock Salt. - Netsur

Does that mean you couldn't eat 'rare' cooked meat, which is often bloody? Correct. Steak Tartar does not occur in the Kosher kitchen. We eat rare meat, because by the time the meat gets to the kitchen it is deemed to have had sufficient blood removed that even moderate cooking will drive out the rest. I have been to the Dead Sea a couple of times. It is very hot (40C air temp) and you float very easily - so easily that it can be hard to get back onto your feet. The water is very oily as it contains so many minerals and salt. Odd place. Not sure I see the attraction other than in the middle of nowhere so quite peaceful if you can find the right place to sit. Last edited by: VxFan on Thu 16 Dec 10 at 13:44 Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 14:49   Storage of Rock Salt. - Dog

>> That sounds like bliss to me & I would love to spend Nov ~ March there :) A question ... which I would fully understand if you did not want to answer - If The Old Testament states (Leviticus 7:26) Ye shall eat no manner of blood, and you keep to that rule - religiously ... how come many Jews ignore the 13th Commandment - You shall not kill/murder. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 15:10   Storage of Rock Salt. - Netsur

If The Old Testament states (Leviticus 7:26) Ye shall eat no manner of blood, and you keep to that rule - religiously ... how come many Jews ignore the 13th Commandment - You shall not kill/murder. 1. Sixth commandment not 13th surely? 2. Let him who is without sin .................Many people have been murdered in the name of religion - I am not sure if Jews have killed in the same way. Do not conflate Jews with Israelis. 3. Killing is legal in Jewish laws within certain defined parameters. The death penalty existed in Temple times for transgressions of religious laws so there is a difference between killing and murder. Killing someone in self defence is permitted - again within defined parameters. 4. Not all Jews (whether outwardly observant or not) keep all the rules. 5. Of course you are making a political point which I shall avoid fuelling. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 16:53   Storage of Rock Salt. - Dog

Thanks for your reply Espada - I meant Exodus 20:13 :) Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 14:18   Storage of Rock Salt. - Iffy

...You can also buy table salt that happens to be Kosher - as per the Wikipedia photo... Kosher bacon anybody? chowhound.chow.com/topics/459888 Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 14:18   Storage of Rock Salt. - Zero

>> You know I think we should have a thread going with detailed explanations of the >> Jewish religion. We could keep it going for years. No thank you. I cant take anything seriously that bans the bacon buttie. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 14:25   Storage of Rock Salt. - Netsur

Funny Kosher is so ingrained in me that I simple cannot conceive of eating anything from the pig or a shellfish. The smell of the food at a football game makes my stomach turn. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 14:29   Storage of Rock Salt. - Zero

So you cant eat Moules either? I cant comprehend how any rule can tell me what I can and cant eat. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 14:32   Storage of Rock Salt. - Netsur

Fish on Fridays? Moslem don't eat pig. Hindus and Bhuddists don't eat meat. It's a matter of self control and belief that eating those things are wrong. I don't even think about it. They are just things I don't eat. Like mangos - yeuch! Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 14:40   Storage of Rock Salt. - Zero

>> Fish on Fridays? >> Moslem don't eat pig. >> Hindus and Bhuddists don't eat meat. All equally incomprehensible. For religious reasons? Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 16:56   Storage of Rock Salt. - Suppose

>> Hindus and Bhuddists don't eat meat. >> The Myth of the Holy Cow - D. N. Jha challenges obscurantist views on the sanctity of the cow in Hindu tradition and culture. Dwijendra Narayan Jha, a leading Indian historian, argues that beef played an important part in the cuisine of ancient India, long before the birth of Islam. It was very much a feature of the approved Brahmanical and Buddhist diet. The evidence he produces from a variety of religious and secular texts is compelling. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 14:47   Storage of Rock Salt. - CGNorwich

"The smell of the food at a football game makes my stomach turn" Nothing to do with being Jewish! Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 10:10   Storage of Rock Salt. - FotheringtonTomas

Difficult to get plastic to rust. Plastic of steel? Also, it's under, not "on top of"! Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 16:35   Storage of Rock Salt. - R.P.

I've decided in the interest of curiosity to conduct an experiment - a steel screw will be placed on the bag and one a foot or so away - another screw will be left some distance away as a control and we'll see what happens ! Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 16:50   Storage of Rock Salt. - madf

Until last winter I had a half opened bag of salt left in our (damp in winter,dry in summer) garage. No special closing of top- just folded down. Perfectly good and dry when used...My new bag this year will not last as long judging by the forecast (the prior one lasted 10 years or so). I blame global warming. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 17:03   Storage of Rock Salt. - Runfer D'Hills

Strikes me that life in general must become so much more of a worry when retired. All these key things to fret about..... :-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 17:10   Storage of Rock Salt. - Tooslow

He's waiting for Countdown to start. John Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 17:14   Storage of Rock Salt. - Runfer D'Hills

Eggheads later too. Got to keep the grey matter functioning. Busy busy busy... Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 17:15   Storage of Rock Salt. - Tooslow

It's a dirty job but some-one has to do it. John Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 17:45   Storage of Rock Salt. - Zero

It was never the same when they got rid of Carol Vorderman. Then I found an on-line Countdown answer generator. That had Nicole convinced I was a genius for a while.... Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 17:57   Storage of Rock Salt. - Iffy

...It was never the same when they got rid of Carol Vorderman... The new lass has her supporters: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOp8BwDFiSc Also a slightly creepy fans' forum: www.rachelriley.org/news-and-gossip-f4.html Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 17:58   Storage of Rock Salt. - R.P.

I have a Countdown YouTube clip somewhere - My little fairy stick would be snapped in half if I posted it though....very rude Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 18:05   Storage of Rock Salt. - Iffy

While I was conducting my in-depth research, I discovered one video had been removed by YouTube. That fans' site must be a breeding ground for stalkers. Dunno if Ms Riley reads any of it, don't think I would in her shoes. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 14 Dec 10 20:32   Storage of Rock Salt. - VxFan

PU, haven't you got a cellar to keep it in. That's where most people keep their salt ;o) I'll get me caot. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 15 Dec 10 15:13   Storage of Rock Salt. - John H

>> He's waiting for Countdown to start. >> John >> And this was the question that came up: newslite.tv/2010/12/15/largebaps-conundrum-for-countd.html Last edited by: John H on Wed 15 Dec 10 at 15:14 Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 15 Dec 10 08:50   Storage of Rock Salt. - Cliff Pope

>> I've decided in the interest of curiosity to conduct an experiment - >> >> Boredom is the problem when conducting these long-term experiments. You could try watching paint dry to keep your mind active. Reply to this message | Report message