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By far and away the best bond. Suave, Sophisticated, Sarcastic, Cruel Cold & Calculating, always ready to Shag and Slap the Voluptuous Vixen in the plot.
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His Best roles I think however were , The Hill, and as Major General Roy Urquhart in "A bridge too far"
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The Man Who Would be King is another well acted piece.
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Best Bond. Loads of really enjoyable films and of course the Oscar for the Untouchables.
RIP
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The best Bond? Or simply not as bad as Lazenby, Moore and Dalton?
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>> The best Bond? Or simply not as bad as Lazenby, Moore and Dalton?
As the first then unless a complete ham he's the benchmark for the rest.
Critics are less than kind about Lazenby (not sure I ever saw OHMSS) and Moore, who I have seen, seemed to play it in almost comic mode.
Never even bothered with the later Bonds.
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You should watch the ones in with Daniel Craig, he's good.
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>> As the first then unless a complete ham he's the benchmark for the rest.
I don't understand. My point is that I don't think he was very good, buy it could appear so because the next three certainly were not.
I thought Brosnan was quite good and Craig very good. We'll have to see what comes next.
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I quite enjoyed the darker tone of the Dalton Bond.
Moore's Bond became too comic.
OHMSS has some very good parts and is apparently one of the "fans" favourites.
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>> I thought Brosnan was quite good and Craig very good. We'll have to see what
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Brosnan had some good Bond film. The second half of Die Another Day should be forgotten though.
Craig's films started off well but the second half of Skyfall seemed to be a rip off of Home Alone.
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>> I don't understand. My point is that I don't think he was very good, buy
>> it could appear so because the next three certainly were not.
Almost a generic point I think.
If you have a sequence of film (or TV) dramas which feature a key character played sequentially by different actors then for a lot of people the way it's played in series 1 first becomes the 'real' character.
For me, as a child of the sixties, Connery is the 'real' Bond.
Moore certainly was not and by most accounts neither was Lazenby. Thinking harder I've seen bits of one of the Dalton films and found it difficult to engage with.
With a new lockdown coming perhaps I should see what's available to stream.
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Got you and agree.
However, I think the earlier Bond films have aged very badly.
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I think the Brosnan and Craig movies are helped significantly by the fantastic Judy Dench as M.
She carries off the "Bond's leash handler" role very well.
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>>I think the Brosnan and Craig movies are helped significantly by the fantastic Judy Dench as M.
Agreed. Considering that she started as a good, but not obviously exceptional, actress who grew into a person who significantly improves the quality of just about anything simply by being in it, she is clearly one of the very best.
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>> Got you and agree.
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>> However, I think the earlier Bond films have aged very badly.
It can easily appear that way, but you have to watch them as films of their time* from books of their time**, ie historically - admittedly thats difficult with a franchise that has being going for so long and modernised as it goes along.
*Dr No, was released 58 years ago. **Casino Royale was written in 1952.
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I'm pretty sure I heard that Dalton was the Bond that Ian Fleming thought came closest to his character.
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Dalton was 18yr old when Fleming died in 1964.
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Oops scrap that then but I'm sure I heard something along those lines from somewhere...
Maybe it was the press offering their verdict compared the book character?
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>>you have to watch them as films of their time* from books of their time**
That's kind of the point. They *only* work in their own time. And that time includes the standards of cinematography and acting. Considered in the context of modern times they are simply awful.
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Woooo Hold on there gringo.
Early bond film cinematography holds up well. Lot of location shooting, you can't tell me Ursula Undress walking out of a Caribbean Sea is not good. nay classic cinematography.
If you consider every film by todays standards of acting, scripts and modern thinking, you chuck a lot of classic stuff in the bin.
The Train, ALL Clint eastward films, Casablanca, every Western, etc etc .
Virtual slap
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No doubt some of you will have already seen the pic that is doing the rounds of St Peter at the pearly gates saying "Ah Mr Bond, I've been expecting you"
Made me chuckle
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>> No doubt some of you will have already seen the pic that is doing the
>> rounds of St Peter at the pearly gates saying "Ah Mr Bond, I've been expecting
>> you"
Has now become special agent 00Heaven.
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OK, OK.
Let's stop the humorous quips and let the guy Resht in Peesh.
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>> OK, OK.
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....shouldn't that have been Oh OK.........?
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>> No doubt some of you will have already seen the pic that is doing the
>> rounds of St Peter at the pearly gates saying "Ah Mr Bond, I've been expecting
>> you"
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>> Made me chuckle
You expect me to talk Goldfinger?
No I expect you to die Mr Bond.
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>> No I expect you to die Mr Bond.
You see, without being picky, I think the line as delivered - "No Mr Bond. I expect you die" is more powerful just by swapping the name around.
I guess that's the kind of thing that scriptwriters spend hours and hours on, honing each line.
I too much prefer Connery's Bond to any other. I think Goldfinger is a great entertaining film, which is all I ask really.
Lazenby actually made quite a good crack at it, and it's a shame he didn't do more. Later Bonds are "meh" to me, and I'll go out of my way not to see Craig's Bond. Modern Bond is I'm sure very lovely, it's just not for me. I'd rather watch Jason Bourne.
And who knew that the Hopkins character of Philip Calvert had a whole bunch of movies ahead of him when they made When Eight Bells Toll, and was seen as the new Bond. Because Connery had said at the time he wasn't going to do Bond any more, and so there was a gap in the market. They thought there wouldn't BE any more Bond movies.
Then Bond came back, and that gap closed. Hopkins may have had an entirely different career path.
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Anthony Hopkins? There's a man that as an actor gets properly up my nose. Seems conceited, selfish and arrogant, not to mention unbearably smug.
Of course, he may be none of those things, but that's how he comes across to me.
I can't watch anything with him in it, I just get irritated.
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I love the way he will always, guaranteed, pause and glance behind himself with his hand on his head in the middle of almost any sentence.
I thought he was very good in Mutiny on the Bounty. He was good in the 2015 The Dresser too, though I much prefer the 1983 version in which he is, um, not in.
Ooh, and he was very good indeed in 84 Charing Cross Road of course.
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I dislike Hopkins as well, there is very little (nothing in fact) improved by his acting presence.
Looking through his filmography on IMDB I was reminded about Edward Fox.
Hells Bells, there is loads of stuff of his that is very good indeed. Including a part in the good dresser and the bad remake.
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Funny you say that - was watching the remake of The Day of the Jackal only yesterday (called The Jackal, Bruce Willis) and it really strikes that whilst it's sort of entertainment it's really ho hum against Fox's original. Day of The Jackal is right up there with something like (the first) The Italian Job for me - period cars and detail, super scenery, good story with a twist, what more can you want? And Fox is brilliant in that.
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Dr No....
I'm sorry Mrs Connery, but he's gone.
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1968. Once upon a Time in the West. Fabulous cinematography...a long opening take with a soaring , almost operatic soundtrack by Ennio Moriconne. Still makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck.
Hasn’t aged a day. I’m very biased. Classic Sergio Leone.
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>> 1968. Once upon a Time in the West. Fabulous cinematography...a long opening take with a
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Well a long everything really. The films is a sprawling mess and about an hour and a quarter too long. Soundtrack was good though.
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>> Well a long everything really. The films is a sprawling mess and about an hour
>> and a quarter too long. Soundtrack was good though.
Without doubt it could have done with some tighter editing. Cut it down to one horse too many?
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Heathens the pair of you. I suppose you don’t appreciate the extended directors cut of Apocalypse Now either.
Plenty of time to watch it in lockdown. JJJ.
Very good zeddo about the caball. Touche
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Sean Connery - RIP - No FM2R
