That should be Spanglers according to Hannah Fry!
My 19-year-old Miele gave up the ghost and I took it apart this morning expecting to change the motor brushes. I've got the motor out, but can't see any way to get to the brushes without destroying the thing, so I'm looking at a new Spangler.
The market seems to be awash with cordless, bagless models. I had a brief affair with a corded, bagless Hoover a while ago and it was useless. Very poor pick-up, forever breaking belts and needing the filter cleaned regularly.
We've had a robot cleaner for a few months and that's already showing signs of reduced battery capacity.
So I'm asking you lot for your experiences please. It'll be used for carpet and hard floors, no pets and (rarely) taken out to do the car.
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Before Spangler/Hoover there were hand powered devices:
rutlandcountymuseum.org.uk/daisy-daisy/
Maybe they should be an Isles?
We've got two
Downstairs which is carpet free laminate and lino we've a cylinder Bosch from c2008 that's badged as a 'hard floor specialist'.
Upstairs where the landing and two from four bedrooms are carpet a vintage upright Dyson DC03 that my Mother swore black/blue was 'shot' circa 2008 lives in the airing cupboard.
Both do exactly what's expected.
Parts for the Dyson are a PITA but still plenty of them being broken for spares ex Council tips etc.
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SEBO are good, pricey though. If ours died, I'd buy another one for sure for sure.
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Miele, 19 years? thats a good run, go with another its done you proud.
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Using a Gtech rechargeable for past few years - only real downside is it has small capacity for crud. The battery easily runs for 45+ minutes.
Also have a couple of Kirbys I bought from eBay years ago (one is 35yr old and still works well, the other abiut 30yrs old and has powerdrive like a self-propelled mower) which are ridiculously good for carpets but never use them since we got the GTech.
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Tried everything in the last 50+ years.
Bought 3 Vaxes in the last 25 years - first 1 was magic, the next 2 were not so good - £100 or thereabouts. One demoted & used for the car.
Bought a mains Dyson about 5 years ago and it is good but was £300+
Dyson selling off mains power and now really battery only.
John Lewis selling "my model" for £230
My son bought a "refurb Dyson", direct from Dyson, around 8 years ago - perfect on arrival and still 100%
Dyson used to run an on-line site for their re-furbs , separate from the main website - maybe they still do.
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At the end of the day it’s horses for courses. We have four, a Henry for DIY, the car and the greenhouse, a Bosch for general household and used mainly downstairs, a Shark rechargeable for upstairs carpets and stairs and a small rechargeable AEG handheld for the bedding.
Last edited by: CGNorwich on Mon 4 Dec 23 at 09:06
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I have direct experience of two Dysons. In my view they are the Range Rovers of the suction world. Expensive, flashy and stylish, albeit with similar levels of reliability. Dont think either last 5 years.
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And they're crap, I've also had two.
The best I have at the moment is some unknown branded cheapo from Lidl. It's about 5 years old and it's fab. It tries to suck the floorboards up. I can barely push it around. Easy to empty, too.
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I hated the Dyson vacuum cleaner I was using at one point with a vengeance. I constantly had to dismantle the turbo rotating brush (or whatever it's called) to clean it out, disentangle hair etc.
The great Dyson feature of it being bagless was meaningless when I frequently had to wash and dry the various filters. If this was not done the suction rapidly became useless. The bagless thing meant it wasted, not saved, time.
We now have a Harry and it just works. The fact that these cleaners are used commercially must say something.
Last edited by: James Loveless on Mon 4 Dec 23 at 18:17
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There's a whole family!
Henry, Hetty, James, George, Charles, Harry - in various colours. Harry is supposedly good for a home which has pets.
As yet, no Wills, Katie, Andy or Meghan.
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>> There's a whole family!
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>> Henry, Hetty, James, George, Charles, Harry - in various colours. Harry is supposedly good for
>> a home which has pets.
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>> As yet, no Wills, Katie, Andy or Meghan.
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Should there be an Archie, what colour would it be ?
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>> Should there be an Archie, what colour would it be ?
That line deserves much wider circulation.
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>Should there be an Archie, what colour would it be ?
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I’ll drink to that. Actually I am…pint of ice cold Mahou ( before noon) looking across a flat calm sea from Raco’s Bar, El Portet. Hot sun and fried bocarones for lunch. Great combo.
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>> I hated the Dyson vacuum cleaner I was using at one point with a vengeance.
>> I constantly had to dismantle the turbo rotating brush (or whatever it's called) to clean
>> it out, disentangle hair etc.
I took ours, an upright as above, to Sheffield to do the 'final clean' when my Daughter and friends left the shared house they had in year 2 at Uni.
One of them was a Sikh girl with a head of long and very dark hair. The sheer quantity of it wrapped around the belt driven brush was unbelievable. Took a blade, scissors and about half an hour to clear it.
On another plane, way back in 1969 my parents moved into a 'new' house. In those days leaving carpets and curtains wasn't a thing and, while some carpets from the old place were adapted to fit, two bedrooms and the lounge had new ones fitted. The fluff from them was unbelievable and completely blocked the airpath in their 1963 Hoover Senior aft of the fan and before the bag. We poked it out with a knitting needle.
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>> I have direct experience of two Dysons. In my view they are the Range Rovers
>> of the suction world. Expensive, flashy and stylish, albeit with similar levels of reliability. Dont
>> think either last 5 years.
The number of early uprights like the DC-03 you saw at the council tip ten or more years ago supports that.
Ours, itself a DC-03 Absolute, has been pretty good. Mum had it first and told me to take it to the tip as it was 'beggared'. I took it home first with the intention of it joining the local heap at Sixfields - the Civic Amenity site near her is up a back jigger and seems designed to ensure Leicestershire's hedge bottoms are full of discarded stuff.
Curiosity as to how it worked led me to dismantle it and check the airpath through it. Removed several clumps of paper and stuff from around the cyclone. Followed up by backhauling (!!) it with our own Bosch and whompf - another load of trapped sheet came out. After that it's run perfectly.
Son acquired a cylinder version form his partner's family in similar circs. Crown cap off a beer bottle had partly blocked the airpath allowing it to trap half a dog worth of Labradoodle fur. Thereafter it worked perfectly.
They do seem a bit prone to blocking but users need to be a bit more (a) careful about what they expect it to pick up and (b) a bit of TLC, easily done when you empty the casette.
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Our 15 year old "cylinder" Miele broke down a couple of months ago - Having a look at You Tube, the power switch was the main suspect, swapped it out and it still didn't work :-(.....Got a new version of it and it seems more powerful and quieter than the original. We also have a Shark thingy - works well.
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>>Dont think either last 5 years.
About 9 months for us! As mentioned in a previous thread, it was consigned to the bin, despite it's remaining guarantee.
The wretched thing was replaced by a Gtech, which is excellent.
Also bought their lawn mower more recently.
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We have a Sebo upright. Does the job well although it has some weight for lifting upstairs.
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I've finally managed to fully dismantle the thing and as suspected the brushes are worn out. The commutator doesn't look too good either.
The brushes are contained within a brass housing which looks like it's been pressed together with the carbons and spring inside inside. I didn't relish trying to take it apart and re-assemble it with new carbons. The only assembled ones I could find were on ebay-used! Dismissed them.
The commutator's deeply grooved anyway and would've needed turning down and possibly undercut - does anyone still do that sort of job?
So it's definitely a new one. As Zeddo said, if the old one's lasted that long, why go anywhere else?
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>The commutator's deeply grooved anyway and would've needed turning down
>and possibly undercut - does anyone still do that sort of job?
There's a guy with a little workshop in Burghfield who repairs and recons dynamos, starter motors and alternators. He'd be able to breathe new life into it.
We seem to be surrounded in Nth Hants and West Berks by vintage car restoration outfits working out of old barns or farm buildings. Old guys who still know how to hand beat aluminium panels and make head gaskets out of last year's Christmas cards.
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>> I've finally managed to fully dismantle the thing and as suspected the brushes are worn
>> out. The commutator doesn't look too good either.
Have you tried contacting Miele? Their parts dept are usually very good and helpful.
Whenever something goes wrong with our Miele washing machine, they've posted the spare parts out next day delivery (new shock absortbers, and a new drain pump and a couple of other things).
www.miele.co.uk/c/spare-parts-and-accessories-24.htm
I've also discovered that if you ask them to confirm the part number, they usually give it to you, and you can then go on somewhere like eBay and find the same Miele parts at a fraction of the cost by people selling new old stock. If I'd have done this with the shocks and pump, I could have saved £50 on each of them. I got a brand new Miele door seal off eBay for £25 recently, whereas Miele wanted £80 for it.
The part No might even be on your vacuum motor.
Last edited by: VxFan on Wed 6 Dec 23 at 10:40
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I've got the part number and the only ones I can find are used ones on ebay. I don't see the point of putting them in. Miele don't list them.
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>> I've got the part number and the only ones I can find are used ones
>> on ebay.
Is that just for the brushes, or a complete motor?
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>> Is that just for the brushes, or a complete motor?
Just the brushes, couldn't find a motor.
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30 years ago I was having the car serviced. The day before the starter motor played up.
Handed the car over in the morning and added the starter to the list.
Picked car up at night and roughly £30 to repair the starter motor.
Old guy in a Nissan hut 50 yards away - stripped down, fault(s) found & rectified for £20+, and a few pounds added for taking the starter off, taking it the old guy and refitting. Today it would be a new Chinese unit costing hundreds.
Old guy did any motors - washing machines, hoovers etc etc as well as car/van/lorry/tractors
Damaged motors replaced with re-worked motors from scrapped cars etc etc - shelves full of re-worked electric motors/alternators for popular models in the day. His best customer was the Ford garage 400 yards away who stuck their "workshop reconditioned" stickers on his repairs and charged "their prices"
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Vacuum cleaners - Bromptonaut
