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Thread Author: smokie Replies: 61

 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fiesta - smokie
I've posted this elsewhere (on a more "specialist" forum) but without any sensible answers, so it's worth a try here... I doubt any of you will have come across this prob but you may be able to suggest a sensible way forward.


This (my daughter's, (previuosly SWMBOs) car has been with my mechanic a number of times for this problem but we've not yet fixed it. it looks remarkably like problems reported on older Fiestas caused by a faulty heater control valve, but I'm not sure my car has one - certainly can't see one in the engine compartment, as per YouTubes...

So the symptoms. Firstly, the car will sit idling for hours without overheating, The fan kicks in correctly.

My mech plugged in his device today so I could drive for a bit and test extensively. In short:

It is definitely overheating - warning light comes on at 120 degrees. The car first went in because of steam escaping, so it isn't just a false reading.

If you then turn on the cabin heating it drops fairly quickly back to about 102 (this is on motorway driving) and stays around there, or a bit higher.

Mostly the bottom radiator hose does not get even warm during/after driving, but after one test today I left it idling with heater and blower on full for about 10 minutes (temp about 100) - temp dropped to 90.and both rad fans were pretty hot.

Both of the heater pipes were hot each time I checked them.

The temp change when turning off/on the heating when running at 70 mph is entirely reproducible.

The car has been in the family since it was 6 months old and it has never had any parts replaced or gunk added to the coolant. It has about 45k miles and FSH, mostly Ford. It used to be the wife's car so no-one will have driven it hard.

So far it's had a new radiator cap and fan (proven not working by an automotive electrical engineer!). The rad has been bled and the mech used a sniffer in the coolant tank and said there was no evidence of head damage. The coolant levels aren't going down. He advises that the pump appears to be working, the rad doesn't appear to be blocked and the hoses all seem OK.

So we are stuck. Having read other threads I've asked him to replace the heater control valve but as above, I'm not sure it has one (though I feel it must).

If that doesn't work I guess it will be a water pump then a radiator, but there is nothing else we can think of. I am trying to limit the cost too!!!

Any thoughts would be much appreciated. Either about HCVs, what to do next, or other diagnostics/tests I can do to narrow it down.

Only suggestion from elsewhere is to try taking out the thermostat and see what happens, but I'm not sure what the expected outcome would be and what it would prove.


I don't want to influence any thinking but it seem to me that the stat may not be opening. Therefore it needs a bit of thought around why this might be, if the new stat isn't duff. My pwn theory is still around the thermostat. Apparently the hot water reaches the stat from the heater outlet which is why the heater control valve is a possibility. But although I imagine there MUST be one, it is definitely not in the same easy-to-access lalce as the older Fiestas.




I'm adding this at the bottom as it may be a red herring but the AC doesn't seem to be working that well either, with vaguely warm air from the vents. I'm thinking this could be consistent with a problem in the heater area but not really sure what.
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 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fiesta new smokie 25 Jun 19 12:28
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fiesta new Zero 25 Jun 19 12:31
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fiest.. new bathtub tom 25 Jun 19 12:53
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fiesta new Fullchat 25 Jun 19 13:11
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fiest.. new smokie 25 Jun 19 14:10
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fies.. new RichardW 25 Jun 19 14:32
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fie.. new smokie 25 Jun 19 16:30
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating F.. new carmalade 25 Jun 19 20:43
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating .. new Duncan 27 Jun 19 22:13
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating.. new bathtub tom 27 Jun 19 22:30
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheatin.. new VxFan 28 Jun 19 02:17
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheati.. new bathtub tom 28 Jun 19 09:01
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overhea.. new smokie 28 Jun 19 12:54
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overhe.. new Manatee 28 Jun 19 13:30
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overh.. new smokie 28 Jun 19 13:34
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overhe.. new Fullchat 28 Jun 19 13:37
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overh.. new smokie 28 Jun 19 13:42
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Over.. new DP 28 Jun 19 14:14
  
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fiesta new Manatee 28 Jun 19 18:17
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fiest.. new smokie 28 Jun 19 18:43
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fies.. new Zero 28 Jun 19 19:13
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fie.. new smokie 28 Jun 19 20:03
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating F.. new Zero 28 Jun 19 21:27
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating .. new carmalade 28 Jun 19 21:44
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating.. new smokie 29 Jun 19 00:20
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheatin.. new Bromptonaut 29 Jun 19 11:33
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheati.. new smokie 29 Jun 19 13:28
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overhea.. new bathtub tom 29 Jun 19 15:08
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overhe.. new carmalade 29 Jun 19 17:23
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overh.. new bathtub tom 29 Jun 19 19:30
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Over.. new carmalade 29 Jun 19 21:05
  
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fiesta new bathtub tom 29 Jun 19 22:25
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fiest.. new Fullchat 29 Jun 19 23:00
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fies.. new smokie 30 Jun 19 00:54
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fies.. new bathtub tom 30 Jun 19 08:44
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating .. new tyrednemotional 30 Jun 19 04:33
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating.. new R.P. 30 Jun 19 08:24
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheatin.. new smokie 1 Jul 19 07:58
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheati.. new Manatee 1 Jul 19 09:06
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating.. new Bromptonaut 1 Jul 19 08:47
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheatin.. new VxFan 1 Jul 19 10:04
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheati.. new smokie 1 Jul 19 17:39
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overhea.. new carmalade 1 Jul 19 20:34
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overhe.. new smokie 1 Jul 19 23:29
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overh.. new Fullchat 4 Jul 19 19:11
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Over.. new smokie 5 Jul 19 20:41
  
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fiesta new Zero 5 Jul 19 21:22
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fiest.. new Duncan 5 Jul 19 22:14
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fies.. new Zero 5 Jul 19 22:44
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fiesta new smokie 6 Jul 19 12:20
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fiest.. new carmalade 6 Jul 19 13:38
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fies.. new smokie 6 Jul 19 15:08
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fie.. new tyrednemotional 6 Jul 19 16:24
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating F.. new smokie 6 Jul 19 16:52
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating .. new tyrednemotional 6 Jul 19 20:39
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating.. new sooty123 6 Jul 19 21:35
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheatin.. new bathtub tom 6 Jul 19 22:21
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheati.. new No FM2R 6 Jul 19 22:34
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheatin.. new tyrednemotional 7 Jul 19 01:01
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheati.. new smokie 7 Jul 19 08:31
  
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fiesta new Fullchat 6 Jul 19 23:06
 Ford Fiesta - 11 1.25 Overheating Fiest.. new smokie 6 Jul 19 23:52
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