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 Brexit Discussion - Volume 90 - Robin O'Reliant
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>> The fact that the Government was even considering no deal – during a global pandemic
>> – was grossly irresponsible.
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>> A better deal could have been negotiated. But I accept that option has now gone.
>> The chance for renegotiation is over.
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On those two points I have picked out -

1/ The government almost certainly had no intention of going out without a deal, but they had to keep that fact open to doubt. Had they said that any deal is better than no deal they would have been shafted by the EU who would have known they had no need to budge on anything.

2/ I'd love to know what "Better deal" Labour would have got for us as we had to go to the wire fighting tooth and nail for this one. Starmer doesn't appear to have told us what extra he would have won.

Of course to be fair to the man, unless he is incredibly naive he knows both of those facts full well but he is doing what any opposition would do and telling us how his party would have done it better
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