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 Diesels greener than battery cars - Kithmo
>>
>> A break even analysis shows that an [internal combustion engined vehicle] would need to consume
>> less than 3.9 L/100km to cause lower [environmental impacts] than a [battery car] ... Consumptions
>> in this range are achieved by some small and very efficient diesel [cars], for example,
>> from Ford and Volkswagen.
>>
>> Actually quite a lot of the new diesels are in the better-than-battery ballpark, according to
>> UK government figures. The notional battery car considered by the EMPA analysts was a Volkswagen
>> Golf with its normal drivetrain replaced by a battery one: but it seems that you
>> would be doing slightly better for the environment to buy an ordinary new Golf with
>> a 1.6 litre "BlueMotion" injected turbodiesel - which would be a lot cheaper. That would
>> consume 3.8 l/100km, not 3.9.
>>
>> So would a new Mini Cooper D hatchback or a new Ford Focus, actually. And
>> if you could bear to go for something a little smaller - VW Polo rather
>> than Golf - you'd be streets ahead on the environmental front, down as low as
>> 3.4 l/100km with more than 15 per cent of the car's in-service emissions clipped off
>> compared to the 3.9 l/100km battery-car baseline. As the Swiss boffins tell us, it's the
>> in-service energy use and emissions which count most.
>>

Come back to the real world Zero, not the government/manufacturers statistics
Look at road tests for mpg figures, they are more realistic.
There isn't an automatic, diesel or petrol, car that will come anywhere near a Prius on mpg. The Prius flying up the motorway at 90mph is still getting 45-50mpg and running an atkinson cycle engine, produces less emissions than a miller cycle engine.
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 Diesels greener than battery cars new Zero 18 Jan 11 23:59
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Dave_ 19 Jan 11 00:43
 Diesels greener than battery cars new idle_chatterer 19 Jan 11 01:22
 Diesels greener than battery cars new DP 19 Jan 11 09:06
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Enoughalready 19 Jan 11 09:23
 Diesels greener than battery cars new .... 19 Jan 11 11:32
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Old Navy 19 Jan 11 11:40
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Boxsterboy 19 Jan 11 12:27
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Kithmo 19 Jan 11 13:25
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Kithmo 19 Jan 11 13:30
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Zero 19 Jan 11 13:38
 Diesels greener than battery cars new tyro 19 Jan 11 13:39
 Diesels greener than battery cars new DP 19 Jan 11 13:50
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Bellboy 19 Jan 11 13:58
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Kithmo 19 Jan 11 14:04
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Zero 19 Jan 11 14:06
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Kithmo 19 Jan 11 14:09
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Zero 19 Jan 11 14:11
 Diesels greener than battery cars new hobby 19 Jan 11 14:17
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Old Navy 19 Jan 11 14:14
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Kithmo 19 Jan 11 14:30
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Zero 19 Jan 11 14:33
 Diesels greener than battery car.. new Kithmo 19 Jan 11 15:04
 Diesels greener than battery car.. new Old Navy 19 Jan 11 15:07
 Diesels greener than battery car.. new Alanovich 19 Jan 11 15:09
 Diesels greener than battery c.. new Zero 19 Jan 11 15:24
 Diesels greener than battery cars new tyro 19 Jan 11 14:14
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Zero 19 Jan 11 14:17
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Alanovich 19 Jan 11 14:18
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Kithmo 19 Jan 11 14:25
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Old Navy 19 Jan 11 15:11
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Kithmo 19 Jan 11 15:17
 Diesels greener than battery car.. new DP 19 Jan 11 16:07
 Diesels greener than battery c.. new Rob81 19 Jan 11 16:24
 Diesels greener than battery .. new diddy1234 19 Jan 11 17:05
 Diesels greener than battery.. new CGNorwich 19 Jan 11 17:13
 Diesels greener than batter.. new Westpig 19 Jan 11 17:22
  
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Iffy 19 Jan 11 17:31
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Bagpuss 19 Jan 11 18:05
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Woodster 19 Jan 11 18:19
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Alastairw 19 Jan 11 18:31
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Armel Coussine 19 Jan 11 18:44
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Woodster 19 Jan 11 19:36
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Armel Coussine 19 Jan 11 19:45
 Diesels greener than battery cars new tyro 19 Jan 11 19:57
 Diesels greener than battery cars new - 19 Jan 11 20:09
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Crankcase 19 Jan 11 20:54
 Diesels greener than battery car.. new Old Navy 19 Jan 11 21:00
 Diesels greener than battery c.. new Crankcase 19 Jan 11 21:01
 Diesels greener than battery car.. new - 19 Jan 11 21:02
 Diesels greener than battery c.. new Crankcase 19 Jan 11 21:10
 Diesels greener than battery .. new - 19 Jan 11 21:18
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Kithmo 19 Jan 11 21:21
 Diesels greener than battery car.. new - 19 Jan 11 21:30
 Diesels greener than battery c.. new Kithmo 19 Jan 11 21:44
 Diesels greener than battery .. new Old Navy 19 Jan 11 21:49
 Diesels greener than battery.. new Kithmo 19 Jan 11 21:55
 Diesels greener than battery .. new - 19 Jan 11 21:52
 Diesels greener than battery.. new Crankcase 19 Jan 11 22:43
 Diesels greener than batter.. new - 19 Jan 11 22:48
  
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Bagpuss 19 Jan 11 23:21
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Zero 19 Jan 11 23:25
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Bagpuss 19 Jan 11 23:58
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Zero 20 Jan 11 00:00
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Boxsterboy 20 Jan 11 12:25
 Diesels greener than battery cars new NortonES2 20 Jan 11 13:25
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Old Navy 20 Jan 11 13:29
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Boxsterboy 20 Jan 11 15:22
 Diesels greener than batter.. new Kithmo 20 Jan 11 10:56
  
 Diesels greener than battery car.. new hobby 20 Jan 11 09:57
 Diesels greener than battery cars new FotheringtonTomas 20 Jan 11 10:54
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Old Navy 20 Jan 11 11:18
 Diesels greener than battery cars new tyro 20 Jan 11 11:24
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Woodster 20 Jan 11 14:10
 Diesels greener than battery cars new BiggerBadderDave 20 Jan 11 14:32
 Diesels greener than battery cars new diddy1234 20 Jan 11 14:35
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Kithmo 20 Jan 11 20:57
 Diesels greener than battery cars new Woodster 21 Jan 11 08:24
 Diesels greener than battery cars new hobby 21 Jan 11 09:53
 Diesels greener than battery cars new diddy1234 21 Jan 11 12:39
 Diesels greener than battery car.. new hobby 21 Jan 11 14:10
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