http://www.car4play.com/forum Car4play forum en-gb Mon, 22 Jun 2026 11:26:32 +0100 Copyright: Car4play webmaster@car4play.com (Technical) 5 car4play689867 Mon, 22 Jun 2026 11:26:32 +0100 >> >> Thomas Telford or I K Brunel. >> >> False dichotomy. >> >> Neither. >> >> Bazalgette. >> It's more of an unacceptable premise than a dichotomy. It would have made sense if the OP had used the word 'more' rather than 'most'. As written, the premise is that one or the other was the most influential of all time. Much as I admire mechanical and civil engineering, my suggestion for a GOAT engineer would be Nikola Tesla. I.M.A. Pedant http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689867&v=e car4play689847 Mon, 22 Jun 2026 07:17:13 +0100 Didn’t he also design / build Hammersmith, Chelsea and Putney bridges, along with Clapham Common, Battersea Park and some other parks in London as well? And of course part of his sewerage system is what created the Victoria, Chelsea and Albert Embankments. As well as Charring Cross Road and Shaftesbury Avenue. Not a bad lifetimes work! http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689847&v=e car4play689846 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 23:39:48 +0100 Alright, what about Dot Comm, the woman who invented the internet? http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689846&v=e car4play689842 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 23:09:56 +0100 >> Percy Shaw, invented the cats eyes used on the road. And that guy who designed the underground map. Not to mention Thomas Crapper. >> With or without any respect, a designer of an underground map, however good (Beck?) can hardly be called a civil engineer. http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689842&v=e car4play689841 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 23:04:18 +0100 How about that little known Egyptian Pharaoh of Welsh descent - dichotomy? http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689841&v=e car4play689840 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 22:50:56 +0100 >> Where would we be without them? Lost and pooing our pants in the dark http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689840&v=e car4play689839 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 22:49:34 +0100 Thomas Crapper didn't do much. He improved flushing systems, he did not invent the flushing toilet. The word crap, meaning faecal matter was not derived from his name. http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689839&v=e car4play689838 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 22:39:18 +0100 Percy Shaw, invented the cats eyes used on the road. And that guy who designed the underground map. Not to mention Thomas Crapper. Where would we be without them? http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689838&v=e car4play689837 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 22:32:06 +0100 >> >> Cobblers he is only famous for one s*** idea. >> >> >> That's that suggestion down the pan, then. >> >> (Might have got the verdict of the floating voters, though). Ai just came up with a new advertising epitaph for Bazljet. "Crossness pumping station - where the s*** hits the fan" http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689837&v=e car4play689836 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 22:29:16 +0100 >> Cobblers he is only famous for one s*** idea. Sorry, forgot to add with the greatest respect http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689836&v=e car4play689835 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 22:27:23 +0100 >> Cobblers he is only famous for one s*** idea. >> That's that suggestion down the pan, then. (Might have got the verdict of the floating voters, though). http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689835&v=e car4play689834 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 22:25:35 +0100 Hmmmm, Ogg & Co Ltd. Stonehenge. Ted http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689834&v=e car4play689833 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 22:22:37 +0100 Cobblers he is only famous for one s*** idea. http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689833&v=e car4play689832 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 22:11:12 +0100 >> Thomas Telford or I K Brunel. False dichotomy. Neither. Bazalgette. http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689832&v=e car4play689828 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 21:35:22 +0100 Of those two I reckon IKB, because of what he did for transport. But I think Sir Joseph Bazalgette deserves a mention for the huge positive impact he had on public health when he designed and built London’s sewerage system, almost of all of which is still in use today. Sorry to those up north…. It was replicated over much of the Empire, and also was much copied and so who knows how many lives it saved. Though, the Romans were probably there first…! http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689828&v=e car4play689826 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 21:07:24 +0100 >> Greatest Civil Engineer(s)? >> Both great But the builders of the pyramids and the Roman roads and aqueducts wre >> also pretty good engineers. Whilst I admit I may sometimes drive the course of a Roman Road, I tend not to see many pyramids, nor do I know the name of the civil engineer involved. As you mentioned Aqueduct, I assume your vote is therefore for Thomas Telford. http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689826&v=e car4play689825 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 21:05:08 +0100 >> With the greatest respect, I find that insulting. A bit of leg pulling is fine but not all heathens are north of the home counties, plenty in the south too !!! http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689825&v=e car4play689824 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 21:05:02 +0100 >> With the greatest respect, I find that insulting. With the greatest respect and in the spirt of social inclusion I dont G - A - F. http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689824&v=e car4play689823 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 21:01:37 +0100 Greatest Civil Engineer(s)? Both great But the builders of the pyramids and the Roman roads and aqueducts wre also pretty good engineers. http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689823&v=e car4play689822 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 20:58:33 +0100 With the greatest respect, I find that insulting. http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689822&v=e car4play689821 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 20:55:41 +0100 >> Ask your local Conservative Association. Most of the members have seen enough of real life >> to give you the (right or wrong) answer. (and some of them might well have >> met both of them). ;-) > With the greatest respect,one would expect such an uninformed comment from heathens north of the home counties. http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689821&v=e car4play689820 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 20:45:11 +0100 Ask your local Conservative Association. Most of the members have seen enough of real life to give you the (right or wrong) answer. (and some of them might well have met both of them). ;-) http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689820&v=e car4play689819 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 20:38:58 +0100 Its a very hot day, its a very hot fathers day, my son came over and we consumed too much beer, and we launched into an argument that only blokes can have. Who was the most influential civil engineer? Thomas Telford or I K Brunel. http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=689819&v=e