Motoring Discussion > MG - Chinese-built British EV
Thread Author: Lygonos Replies: 40

 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Lygonos
For the benefit of Smokie and anyone else interested.

Have had a white MG ZS EV Excite (cheaper spec - Exclusive is the plastic seat/giant sunroof/more gizmos one) for a year and nearly 12,000 miles.

What is it? Small SUV style FWD electric car - 145bhp, 44.5kWh battery - looks like a mix of old Mazda and Korean styles - inoffensive enough.

Performance: Quick as per most EVs - on paper 0-60 8.5s, on the road warm hatch to 30mph then about the same as a good 2 litre turbodiesel - pulls well to the limiter (96mph indicated) - much better than LEAF/ZOE at fast overtakes.

Handling: Fairly soggy - has 215/50x17 Michelins which grip well in dry but quite a lot of spring travel, under-damped, and torsion beam rear means fast bends on rough roads show up its limits.

Build: Anything you touch is decent material including soft-touch dashboard - door caps/panels/etc usual hard plastic. Well screwed together, doors close with a decent clunk. Panels are quite thin/flexible on roof/doors though solid structure and 5* NCAP

Interior: Excite = cloth seats (unheated), electric mirros (unheated), one-touch windows, infotainment ok - only front speakers and tweeters, and built in Nav is a bit crap, does have AA/A Carplay standard.

MG Pilot: effectively autosteer/brake/lane keeping like Tesla's autopilot but not as good - works well on motorways. Rarely use it though.

Occupants: flat floor so 3 adults can fit across rear bench - no middle rear headrest though. Driver seat lots of adjustability, steering for rake only though I can fit comfortably (which I can't in LEAF as the wheel sits on my lap)

Boot: very good size, adjustable floor - can have a space saver but needs bought separately if you don't want the gunk/compressor.

Range: 120-130 miles winter, 150-170 miles summer driven reasonably quickly - better through towns, worse on fast roads as per all EVs

DC Charging: I rarely use rapid chargers - seems to be variable depending on various factors and luck - 45-60mins empty to 80% is typical - peak charge is around 75kW but this isn't sustained and some chargers seem to struggle to break 35kW - probably still software tweaks to be made.

AC charging: 7kW single phase, so empty to full in ~7 hours (20 hours plugged into a 3-pin)


Overall - decent car - for under £19k 70-plate with delivery miles and metallic is an absolute steal for a family-sized EV (can you even get a Focus automatic for that these days?).

Currently a few of the Exclusive spec variants for £20.5k in stock - adds fake leather, rear speakers, big opening pano roof, heated front seats and mirrors (missed the heated mirrors last winter but never need heaters with cloth seats), some extra safety gubbins inc blind spot monitoring.

MG can manage the numbers unlike Hyundai/KIA/VW - they deserve to get some recognition for their EVs IMO.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - No FM2R
Interesting, thank you.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - R.P.
Yes, thanks, a real world factual write up ! See quite a few on the roads around here.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - No FM2R
There are many MGs around here, though not electric as far as I know. I've been in a couple, I like them.

There is an electric charging infrastructure, but it is small localised and inadequate.

I very much look forward to the day when an electric car is viable for me.

I reckon it'd have to have a range of 250 miles or so though. Perhaps that means it'll have to be hybrid for the forseeable future.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Lygonos
The larger HS looks a decent machine although it only comes as petrol or plug-in hybrid (with 260bhp, 0-60 6.9s) at present.

mg.co.uk/mg-hs-plugin/

Each iteration of new MG brings them closer to Jap/Korean/Euro standard I think.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - smokie
A belated thanks for that Lygonos, very useful and informative. it sounds as good as I would have expected for the money.

SWMBO was "a bit funny" with me when I showed the car to her. She said "I didn't know you were looking for a new car".

Well, tbh I suppose I wasn't, but that really caught my eye, and it seemed really cheap.

I've probably missed any bargains around this registration change, and clearly need to do a bit more groundwork before changing, but I may well have a much closer look at them in the meantime so I can be ready to pounce if the offers return.

I suppose maybe something with a bit more range would be useful if it meant I would be getting rid of the second car but I'm not ruling out the MG at the moment.#

Thanks again!!
Last edited by: smokie on Sun 8 Nov 20 at 13:01
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Oldgit
Bjorn Nyland or @teslabjorn on Youtube has extensive test info on all electric cars and has indeed bought one of these for his in-laws use when back in Thailand. He is constantly testing and evaluating EVs in Norway.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Boxsterboy
A pall of mine got one of the first of these MG EVs. He had s few issues with the car not charging overnight, leaving it uncharged in the morning. Not ideal! They seem very good value, although an EV that doesn’t charge doesn’t strike me as good value.
I don’t understand the ‘British EV’ in the title though. There is nothing British about this. Designed, engineered and built in China by a Chinese who stick a ‘British’ label on them.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Runfer D'Hills
>> A pall of mine got one of the first of these MG EVs.

How could he bear it?
;-)
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Clk Sec
>> How could he bear it?

It's one of the smaller EVs, so no problem.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - R.P.
There was an advert on telly for them tonight, filmed in Rhyl. Says something, not quite sure what though
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Runfer D'Hills
I went to Ryhl once. There was nothing of interest there, and I can think of no reason ever to go back. Not that my opinion counts for much. I'm sure there are those who see a beauty in it that escaped me.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - bathtub tom
>>I went to Ryhl once.

So did I. And I used to think Blackpool (Portsmouth, Margate, Ramsgate, Hunstanton, Skegness) was bad.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - No FM2R
>>I went to Ryhl once

I went often. My Grandfather was a champion chrysanthemum grower and there was an annual competition there.

I quite liked the place.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Runfer D'Hills
Come to think, the place I went to was spelled differently.
;-)
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - CGNorwich

>> Come to think, the place I went to was spelled differently.
>> ;-)


Rhyly?
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - R.P.
lyhR ? That's what I see in my mirrors as I speed away
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - tyrednemotional
>> Come to think, the place I went to was spelled differently.
>> ;-)
>>

.....Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch......?

(I can see why you used "Rhyl", though).

;-)
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - R.P.
Easy for you to say. My V60 is going there next week for its first service. I won't be going with it as it's being collected.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - tyrednemotional
...does it have the dealer sticker across the back and rear side windows....?
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Runfer D'Hills
For no reason at all, I'm going to see what happens when you try to put that into a sat nav.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - tyrednemotional
...don't - it's too close to Rhyl!!!....
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Runfer D'Hills
It's ok, even if I inadvertently tried to go there the police would stop me at the moment. Every cloud...
;-)
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - R.P.
Full of druggies and perverts now, honestly it is awful. Saw lots of what goes on there when I worked for Victim Support and the NHS Courier Service. I go there occasionally. I sold a chain saw horse on FB to a guy who wanted delivered to a place nicknamed "the reservation"...pulled up in the Volvo, he appeared on his bike, got talking to him (like you do) and he admitted that he thought we were the Police....
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - R.P.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=y210CEYnTGs
The Rhyl advert, some of it was filmed there (the Blue Bridge) and on the Great Orme. There were sightings of the dinosaurs around the area, and I believe one of them was arrested for something or other.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - VxFan
Robert Llewellyn (Red Dwarf bloke) has a YouTube channel called Fully Charged which is all about EV's.

www.youtube.com/user/fullychargedshow

Here is his review of the MG ZS EV

youtu.be/5kc3soIPQAg

 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Dave_
For the last year I've been working in the despatch department of an MG main dealer. It's a small, family firm so everyone mucks in with everything. We are selling a lot of ZS EVs and have just received our first MG5 estate and HS PHEV.

They seem to sell themselves, mostly to people who've done their research and done the maths. A good proportion have previously owned or still own an older MG, interestingly.

There is a Comfort update available which quells the bongs and tidies up the touchscreen interface. All cars sold since September come with it; older vehicles can have it applied for a fee as it's not deemed essential to the continued functioning of the vehicle.

The only issues we're seeing with EVs so far are owner-inflicted. Door mirror indicator lenses and paint touch-up pens are good sellers.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Lygonos
The MG5 estate should do for MG what the Octavia did for Skoda - similar price to the ZS and about 25% better range (so ~160 winter, 210 summer miles). 0-60 is ~7.5s which is pretty sharp.

It's a fairly bland thing externally but a cabbie doing 30k miles/year is going to save a stack, and the interior looks a tad better than the ZS.


mg.co.uk/files/2020-09-39/MG5_INTERIOR_STEERING_SUNLIGHT_WEB.jpg


 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Duncan
>>
>> It's a fairly bland thing externally but a cabbie doing 30k miles/year is going to
>> save a stack, and the interior looks a tad better than the ZS.
>>

I had a minicab ride in a Prius+ yesterday. Very, well, uneventful, which I suppose is what you want from a minicab ride.

If you regularly wanted to carry more than four passengers, and two of them weren't too tall, this would be the business.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Lygonos
>>If you regularly wanted to carry more than four passengers, and two of them weren't too tall, this would be the business.

The hybrid London cabs seat 6 in the back comfortably and can come with a huge glass roof which is nice for sightseeing.

They're about 70 grand I think (over £800/mth lease) so not for your typical Uber driver.

www.levc.com/tx-electric-taxi/
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - R.P.
Called by the local hospital today to return the FiL's 24 hour ECG recorder. I parked near the entrance whilst I waited for Mrs RP to return from the drop off point. Whilst I was there two of these electric MGs turned up in convoy to park in the Disabled Bays...there are loads around here (the hospital is nominally in Rhyl !)
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Lygonos
Who designed this?

It has bumcheeks for a front grille....


www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-8934143/BMW-unveils-flagship-electric-iX-SUV-cost-85k-year.html
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Zero
Ok Its caught BMWs strange recent grill disease, the rest however looks pretty sharp and very close to its concept car. Love the long dash display floating on the flying buttresses.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - VxFan
>> It has bumcheeks for a front grille....

>> Ok Its caught BMWs strange recent grill disease

Apparently to a recent car review of a BMW, the Chinese are a fan of large grills, hence why the MG is the size it is.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Bromptonaut
>> Who designed this?
>>
>> It has bumcheeks for a front grille....

Where does the electric plug in go?
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - bathtub tom
>>Where does the electric plug in go?

Innuendo - the Italian word for suppository (ISIHAC).
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Bromptonaut
>> Innuendo - the Italian word for suppository (ISIHAC).

I'd heard another version of that.......
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - sooty123
>> Where does the electric plug in go?

Behind the grill.
Last edited by: VxFan on Thu 12 Nov 20 at 14:09
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - VxFan
>> Where does the electric plug in go?

It's shown in the YouTube clip that I posted further up.#

youtu.be/5kc3soIPQAg?t=908
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Duncan
>> Who designed this?
>>
>> It has bumcheeks for a front grille....


That's the way it is.

BMW owners and drivers like that sort of thing.
 MG - Chinese-built British EV - Zero
>> BMW owners and drivers like that sort of thing.

Thats a pretty sweeping statement, I am, I don't, and mine isn't.
Last edited by: VxFan on Thu 12 Nov 20 at 14:09
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