Technical Car/Motor Issues > Citroen C3 - 04 1.4 Headlamp bulb change - grrrrrrr Miscellaneous
Thread Author: Mike Hannon Replies: 15

 Citroen C3 - 04 1.4 Headlamp bulb change - grrrrrrr - Mike Hannon
We are stumped here. The left side (nearside in UK) dipped beam is out on my friend's C3 and we are tearing our hair as well as our knuckles trying to figure out how to get the blown bulb out. We've had the grille out and part of the bumper, to no avail. You can get your fingers on the back of the bulb holder from the top but, inevitably, there isn't enough room to pull it out of the light unit.
Are we missing something simple? Does the whole headlight unit come out from the front or something?
Any ideas would be welcome.
 Citroen C3 - 04 1.4 Headlamp bulb change - grrrrrrr - Arjades
www.citroen-owners-club.co.uk/citroen/index.php?showtopic=502

:)
 Citroen C3 - 04 1.4 Headlamp bulb change - grrrrrrr - Mike Hannon
Thanks - luckily all I had to do was pass the link on to the owner's husband.
What a blinking stupid design.
 Citroen C3 - 04 1.4 Headlamp bulb change - grrrrrrr - L'escargot
All cars are a compromise. If they made it easy to change a headlight bulb, you'd undoubtedly lose out in some other respect ~ which you'd then complain about!
 Citroen C3 - 04 1.4 Headlamp bulb change - grrrrrrr - Mike Hannon
No, sorry, Mr Snail. Compromise doesn't excuse bad design.
 Citroen C3 - 04 1.4 Headlamp bulb change - grrrrrrr - Iffy
...Compromise doesn't excuse bad design...

Agreed, bad design is inexcusable.

I've mentioned this before, but isn't it compulsory to carry spare bulbs in some countries?

Not much use if you need a workshop to change one.
 Citroen C3 - 04 1.4 Headlamp bulb change - grrrrrrr - L'escargot
>> No, sorry, Mr Snail. Compromise doesn't excuse bad design.
>>

It's hardly bad design if the bulb can be changed in 30 seconds ~ according to your post timed at 09:43 today!
Last edited by: L'escargot on Wed 6 Oct 10 at 10:21
 Citroen C3 - 04 1.4 Headlamp bulb change - grrrrrrr - Robin the Technician
Try doing a headlight bulb on a common car like my Daughters Vauxhall Corsa '55' plate. You have to remove the whole front bumper and the headlight JUST to change the bulb....never seen anything so ridiculous in all my life - and I'm a Technician!!!!

Come the day of the revolution, we'll insist on bulbs that last the lifetime of the car!!

Robin the Technician
Last edited by: VxFan on Fri 1 Oct 10 at 01:14
 Citroen C3 - 04 1.4 Headlamp bulb change - grrrrrrr - Robin O'Reliant
>> >> Come the day of the revolution, we'll insist on bulbs that last the lifetime of
>> the car!!
>>
British Leyland had that one cracked. They made cars that lasted the lifetime of the bulbs.
 Citroen C3 - 04 1.4 Headlamp bulb change - grrrrrrr - Robin the Technician
Hahahaha!! Thats even more significant as I worked for them for 15 years!!!

Some BL's were right dogs - that said I had an Allegro which served me well, plus 3 montego's. All drove well but the last one sadly fell to bits before reaching its 10th birthday Shame really as the engine/ gearbox were superb and it was really comfortable. Good days..... now its 7 year warranties and one offering a lifetime one.

Robin the Technician
 Citroen C3 - 04 1.4 Headlamp bulb change - grrrrrrr - Mike Hannon
Well, my friend gave up yesterday and took it in to the Citroen dealer. The fitter did the job in less than half a minute and the charge was 5 euros for the bulb with free fitting! My friend said he has rarely felt more embarrassed - even after he gave the guy a drink. The fitter said you have to know exactly which way to move the fitting without looking at it, and he knows lots of Citroen fitters who can't do it. There you go...
 Citroen C3 - 04 1.4 Headlamp bulb change - grrrrrrr - Fenlander
Mike. I was going to venture the opinion some folks have the knack with fiddly parts and others are hopeless. I'd expect to do a bulb on the C3 in minutes.

Similarly the Megane is often mentioned as needing the bumper removing to change a headlamp bulb. Annoyingly the front wheel will need removing but then there is an access hatch in the wheelarch liner whereby with the knack a bulb can be changed in minutes without touching the bumper.

It's like the old joke about being able to paper the hall stairs and landing from outside through the letter box.... it's a gift!
 Citroen C3 - 04 1.4 Headlamp bulb change - grrrrrrr - DP
I agree this is poor design, and nothing more.
I accept that packaging and the "busier" under-bonnet layout of a typical modern car may dictate that components foul access to the rear of the light unit, but Volvo and some others have a beautifully simple workaround for this by enabling you to remove the entire light unit, with no tools, in a matter of 30 seconds or so.
Bulbs are an essential safety item, and should be easy to change, at the roadside, without tools, and without removing anything that's not a direct part of the light unit itself.
 Citroen C3 - 04 1.4 Headlamp bulb change - grrrrrrr - Collos
As of this year a EU law states that any new car you must be able to change the headlamp bulb without any special tools without going to a garage and in a reasonable short time,and without removing any major component, main dealers will have to change for nothing if this cannot be achieved.
 Citroen C3 - 04 1.4 Headlamp bulb change - grrrrrrr - hawkeye
>> Mike. I was going to venture the opinion some folks have the knack with fiddly
>> parts and others are hopeless. I'd expect to do a bulb on the C3 in
>> minutes.
>>

I've had to do this a couple of times since '02 when we first got our C3. I'm too late to this to be any help but for H7 bulbs I like to leave the connector on the bulb until it's unclipped. For the nearside I find it easiest to take the battery covers off; that gives some space behind the headlight. Then out comes the makeup mirror to remind me where the clip is and how it springs apart. Also, if it's not full daylight, leaving the sidelights on helps when you offer the new bulb up.

Mrs H thinks it takes 40 mins, but I've usually fitted in a swift half at the pub across the road as well.

 Citroen C3 - 04 1.4 Headlamp bulb change - grrrrrrr - Fenlander
>>>Mrs H thinks it takes 40 mins, but I've usually fitted in a swift half at the pub across the road as well.

Top man. I don't have a nearby pub but the workshop is carpeted and quite cosy with the radio on and heater if it's winter so I pull a similar trick. Serviced the C3 last Sat and took a restful couple of hours away from the pressure to take teen girls here or there. Haven't serviced a car for more than a year... forgot the great satisfaction of a job well done for just the cost of parts.
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