"I hope... that Chris didn’t mind me using him as Devils Advocate" - so that's what it was! :-)
Thanks to Pat for a long and thoughtful trawl over the issues here.
I really don't want to prolong this. My feelings are that Pat wants a quiet life and for the world to be a peace with itself and others here (me included) feel it's worth testing principles, even if it means making some unpleasant waves. If it wasn't Pat involved in this I might have the temerity to suggest there is a gender element here! (You know, cavemen swinging their clubs at each other - that kind of thing.)
One more point to add: this is an internet forum, for God's sake, not the whole of life itself. I don't really care if HJ blacklists me or bans me or whatever may happen. I don't actually mind if people here don't agree with me. I do believe it's important to say what you think, have a good reasoned argument and move on.
I do welcome what others have said and value c4p as a pretty good place, when all's said and done. And that's the end of my contribution to this thread.
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