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Thread Author: zippy Replies: 96

 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Leader Thread - Lemma
Ambo outlines the socio-economic classification very well ( although E is usually thought of as unemployed). This is probably what most people understand in a post-war context when thinking about what they might mean by working class, typically C2 and D. It was roughly reliable when cross referenced against income, a triangle with lowest/highest at the bottom/top, which is what made it useful.

Very different now and much more a diamond shape as “working class” incomes and standards of living have improved. As a tool for thinking about societal interaction it has become much less useful and hence more sophisticated systems are used in an attempt to aggregate people into broad groups. Fundamentally these systems are based on either individual’s characteristics and observable behaviour and/or their values and attitudes as a predictor of future behaviour. Hence the sometimes rather indirect questions. With “big data” sophisticated companies can divide their target populations into thousands of different groups, rather more than A-E!

In modern society I think the term working class, where mass, largely unskilled employment is stepwise diminished, is largely useless. Except for politicians of course who use the rhetoric of the post war period, but actually can be much more sophisticated in their use of data to target their message. In most cases anyway. It seems to me that the Labour Party not only had the wrong message but it didn’t matter because they were hopeless in understanding how and who to communicate it to. Complacency? The Islington bubble? An introverted group suffering group-think? I would be fascinated to hear the analysis assuming they have the humility to prepare any.
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 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Leade..  zippy 17 Dec 19 22:28
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Lead..  henry k 17 Dec 19 23:10
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Lea..  sooty123 18 Dec 19 08:30
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Lead..  Bromptonaut 18 Dec 19 08:37
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Lea..  No FM2R 18 Dec 19 11:23
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Le..  Ambo 18 Dec 19 11:34
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour L..  No FM2R 18 Dec 19 12:05
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Le..  CGNorwich 18 Dec 19 12:35
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour L..  No FM2R 18 Dec 19 12:56
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour..  Bromptonaut 18 Dec 19 13:37
 The Who's Going to be the New Labou..  Ambo 18 Dec 19 14:39
 The Who's Going to be the New Labo..  Zero 18 Dec 19 14:56
 The Who's Going to be the New Lab..  Bromptonaut 18 Dec 19 15:04
 The Who's Going to be the New Lab..  No FM2R 18 Dec 19 15:05
 The Who's Going to be the New La..  Crankcase 18 Dec 19 18:26
 The Who's Going to be the New ..  sooty123 18 Dec 19 18:36
 The Who's Going to be the New..  Haywain 18 Dec 19 21:18
 The Who's Going to be the Ne..  Zero 18 Dec 19 21:31
 The Who's Going to be the N..  Haywain 18 Dec 19 21:42
  
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Lead..  Zero 18 Dec 19 21:59
  
 The Who's Going to be the New ..  Zero 18 Dec 19 21:25
 The Who's Going to be the New..  Kevin 18 Dec 19 21:46
 The Who's Going to be the New..  Rudedog 18 Dec 19 22:02
 The Who's Going to be the Ne..  Kevin 18 Dec 19 22:42
 The Who's Going to be the N..  No FM2R 18 Dec 19 23:01
  
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Lead..  Kevin 18 Dec 19 23:31
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Lea..  No FM2R 18 Dec 19 23:46
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Le..  Kevin 18 Dec 19 23:53
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Lea..  CGNorwich 18 Dec 19 23:47
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Le..  Kevin 18 Dec 19 23:55
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour L..  tyrednemotional 19 Dec 19 08:34
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour..  Zero 19 Dec 19 08:48
  
 The Who's Going to be the ..  Lemma 18 Dec 19 22:18
 The Who's Going to be the Ne..  Manatee 18 Dec 19 23:11
 The Who's Going to be the New Lab..  Ambo 19 Dec 19 08:46
 The Who's Going to be the New La..  Zero 19 Dec 19 08:47
 The Who's Going to be the New ..  Runfer D'Hills 19 Dec 19 09:52
 The Who's Going to be the New..  R.P. 19 Dec 19 10:14
 The Who's Going to be the Ne..  Runfer D'Hills 19 Dec 19 10:30
 The Who's Going to be the N..  Manatee 19 Dec 19 10:35
 The Who's Going to be the Ne..  Lemma 19 Dec 19 10:48
 The Who's Going to be the N..  PeterS 19 Dec 19 10:58
 The Who's Going to be the N..  Zero 19 Dec 19 11:33
  
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Lead..  Netsur 19 Dec 19 13:48
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Lea..  The Melting Snowman 19 Dec 19 17:43
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Le..  Fullchat 19 Dec 19 19:27
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Le..  sooty123 19 Dec 19 19:36
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour L..  legacylad 19 Dec 19 21:06
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour..  Terry 19 Dec 19 22:20
 The Who's Going to be the New Labou..  Manatee 19 Dec 19 22:47
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Lead..  Lemma 20 Dec 19 18:13
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Lea..  Zero 20 Dec 19 19:05
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Le..  Manatee 20 Dec 19 19:30
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour L..  Zero 20 Dec 19 19:49
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour..  Manatee 20 Dec 19 22:06
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour L..  PeterS 20 Dec 19 20:00
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour..  Manatee 20 Dec 19 20:06
 The Who's Going to be the New Labou..  Ambo 21 Dec 19 08:06
 The Who's Going to be the New Labou..  PeterS 21 Dec 19 08:37
 The Who's Going to be the New Labo..  Bromptonaut 21 Dec 19 09:23
 The Who's Going to be the New Labo..  CGNorwich 21 Dec 19 09:25
 The Who's Going to be the New Lab..  PeterS 21 Dec 19 11:38
 The Who's Going to be the New La..  No FM2R 21 Dec 19 13:10
 The Who's Going to be the New ..  Terry 21 Dec 19 20:33
 The Who's Going to be the New..  BiggerBadderDave 22 Dec 19 01:00
 The Who's Going to be the Ne..  smokie 22 Dec 19 09:42
 The Who's Going to be the N..  Robin O'Reliant 22 Dec 19 11:39
  
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Lead..  Zero 22 Dec 19 12:38
 The Who's Going to be the Ne..  Terry 22 Dec 19 11:41
 The Who's Going to be the N..  CGNorwich 22 Dec 19 12:02
  
 The Who's Going to be the New Labour Lead..  Manatee 22 Dec 19 14:20
  
 And They're Off!!  Bromptonaut 25 Jan 20 14:01
 And They're Off!!  Manatee 25 Jan 20 18:46
 And They're Off!!  Zero 25 Jan 20 19:07
 And They're Off!!  CGNorwich 25 Jan 20 19:21
 And They're Off!!  Robin O'Reliant 25 Jan 20 19:26
 And They're Off!!  Zero 25 Jan 20 19:53
 And They're Off!!  Manatee 25 Jan 20 20:11
 And They're Off!!  Bromptonaut 26 Jan 20 11:15
 And They're Off!!  Haywain 26 Jan 20 16:17
 And They're Off!!  No FM2R 26 Jan 20 17:54
 And They're Off!!  No FM2R 25 Jan 20 19:26
 And They're Off!!  Bromptonaut 25 Jan 20 19:51
 And They're Off!!  Terry 25 Jan 20 19:57
 And They're Off!!  Zero 25 Jan 20 19:53
 And They're Off!!  Bromptonaut 25 Jan 20 19:50
 And They're Off!!  Zero 25 Jan 20 19:57
 And They're Off!!  Zero 25 Jan 20 20:00
 And They're Off!!  Bromptonaut 25 Jan 20 20:25
 And They're Off!!  No FM2R 25 Jan 20 20:28
 And They're Off!!  Roger. 26 Jan 20 14:02
 New start  sooty123 22 Sep 20 09:01
 New start  CGNorwich 22 Sep 20 09:58
 New start  sooty123 22 Sep 20 10:12
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