Non-motoring > Necessary or disgrace?
Thread Author: sooty123 Replies: 95

 Necessary or disgrace? - midlifecrisis
Haven't logged in for a while, but the nonsense spouted by Zero boiled my blood. All you're demonstrating is your ignorance of the role the aircraft did.

Firstly Nimrod MR4a is 90% a new aircraft. It was PAID FOR and a few months from service. The cost to scrap it was 200million, which would have operated it for years.

Piper Alpha? Nimrod had high speed transit and was able to loiter on the scene for hours directing the rescue effort. No other aircraft could do that.

Other aircraft. The US have tried to adapt the 737 into the P8. It's late and over-budget. The two underslung engines cannot are totally unsuited to the environment. The aircraft cannot operate at low-level and is suffering sever buffeting problems that they can't solve.

Liam Fox initially stated it would be a catastrophe if the aircraft was lost. He is now toeing the party line and suddenly stating it isn't a problem.

Dave and Liam have stated that SAR cover, Maritime cover and the other roles Nimrod carried out is now done by C130, Merlin helicopters and a Type 23 Frigate. Utter nonsense and a blatant lie. The C130s are all flat out servicing Afghanistan and unsuited to the role anyway. Merlin is to slow and hasn't the range. Type 23? Where?

You can stick your head in the sand, but we do need the ELINT capability of the R1 and MR2. They were supreme at what they did. Rivet Joint replacements are all 45 years old already, good deal that!

MR4a had a few minor issues around the flap hinge that had been reolved a long time ago. It was airworthy and ready to go.

As well as losing the aircraft, we're also losing the expertise that went with it. That's not something that can be replaced overnight. Sadly, we've replaced one criminally incompetent Government, with another, that has totally betrayed the armed forces, preferring to spend the money on ludicrously expensive and useless wind farms and overseas bribes (£10 billion worth)

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 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 19:36
 Necessary or disgrace? new Perky Penguin 28 Jan 11 19:46
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 19:47
 Necessary or disgrace? new Iffy 28 Jan 11 19:51
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 19:52
 Necessary or disgrace? new Mark 28 Jan 11 19:53
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:02
 Necessary or disgrace? new Mark 28 Jan 11 20:13
 Necessary or disgrace? new Ian (Cape Town) 28 Jan 11 20:17
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:19
 Necessary or disgrace? new Mark 28 Jan 11 20:52
 Necessary or disgrace? new MD 28 Jan 11 19:53
 Necessary or disgrace? new MD 28 Jan 11 19:55
 Necessary or disgrace? new Fenlander 28 Jan 11 19:56
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:00
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 20:05
 Necessary or disgrace? new MD 28 Jan 11 20:06
 Necessary or disgrace? new Iffy 28 Jan 11 20:07
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:12
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 20:16
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:22
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 20:25
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:29
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 20:40
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:54
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 20:59
 Necessary or disgrace? new Bromptonaut 28 Jan 11 21:05
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 21:11
 Necessary or disgrace? new CGNorwich 28 Jan 11 20:12
 Necessary or disgrace? new Kevin 28 Jan 11 20:14
 Necessary or disgrace? new R.P. 28 Jan 11 20:18
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:25
 Necessary or disgrace? new RattleandSmoke 28 Jan 11 20:19
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:22
 Necessary or disgrace? new RattleandSmoke 28 Jan 11 20:23
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:27
 Necessary or disgrace? new RattleandSmoke 28 Jan 11 20:28
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:31
 Necessary or disgrace? new R.P. 28 Jan 11 20:32
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 20:41
 Necessary or disgrace? new Fenlander 28 Jan 11 21:04
 Necessary or disgrace? new R.P. 28 Jan 11 21:13
 Necessary or disgrace? new Fenlander 28 Jan 11 21:20
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 21:29
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 21:23
 Necessary or disgrace? new madf 28 Jan 11 21:18
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 21:24
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 21:27
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 21:30
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 21:34
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 21:43
  
 Necessary or disgrace? new Mark 28 Jan 11 21:54
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 21:55
  
 Necessary or disgrace? new midlifecrisis 28 Jan 11 21:48
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 21:54
  
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 21:58
  
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 22:20
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 Necessary or disgrace? new rtj70 28 Jan 11 23:12
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 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 23:23
 Necessary or disgrace? new rtj70 28 Jan 11 23:30
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 23:31
 Necessary or disgrace? new rtj70 28 Jan 11 23:36
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 23:50
 Necessary or disgrace? new rtj70 28 Jan 11 23:55
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 29 Jan 11 00:10
 Necessary or disgrace? new hobby 29 Jan 11 08:53
 Necessary or disgrace? new midlifecrisis 29 Jan 11 09:33
 Necessary or disgrace? new madf 29 Jan 11 09:37
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 29 Jan 11 10:28
 Necessary or disgrace? new Perky Penguin 30 Jan 11 07:30
 Necessary or disgrace? new R.P. 30 Jan 11 09:06
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 Necessary or disgrace? new hobby 30 Jan 11 09:45
  
 Necessary or disgrace? new R.P. 30 Jan 11 09:46
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 30 Jan 11 11:46
 Necessary or disgrace? new hobby 30 Jan 11 12:40
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 30 Jan 11 13:03
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 30 Jan 11 13:24
 Necessary or disgrace? new hobby 30 Jan 11 16:28
 Necessary or disgrace? new Tooslow 30 Jan 11 17:01
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 30 Jan 11 11:18
 Necessary or disgrace? new Perky Penguin 30 Jan 11 16:33
 Necessary or disgrace? new R.P. 30 Jan 11 16:35
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 30 Jan 11 22:41
 Necessary or disgrace? new swiss tony 30 Jan 11 22:44
 Necessary or disgrace? new Bromptonaut 30 Jan 11 22:44
  
 Necessary or disgrace? new swiss tony 30 Jan 11 22:45
 Necessary or disgrace? new Perky Penguin 31 Jan 11 08:15
  
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 31 Jan 11 17:40
  
 Necessary or disgrace? new Perky Penguin 29 Jan 11 07:46
 Necessary or disgrace? new Perky Penguin 31 Jan 11 10:26
 Necessary or disgrace? new smokie 11 Mar 11 00:19
 Necessary or disgrace? new Ian (Cape Town) 29 Jan 11 13:46
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