Non-motoring > Necessary or disgrace?
Thread Author: sooty123 Replies: 95

 Necessary or disgrace? - rtj70
I admit to not reading the bulk of the long thread - apologies. But have an opinion based on what I have read.

The old airframes that were to be re-used are from a time when they are basically all unique. So refitting them has been a problem.... how do you manufacture new wings for a batch of planes when they are all slightly differently? Answer - by making bespoke components.

These planes are really old in design terms - need a spare part then it has to be made. And therefore all the personnel needed to maintain them (nine planes) need to be kept on and paid... all expense.

The planes are not spy planes either. They are maritime patrol planes with sub-hunting abilities except:

- We have other means of spotting the subs
- The 'spy plane' bit probably comes from the MRA2's relaying comms for special forces in Afghanistan... which could be done by a drone. And the real Nimrod spy planes are the R2s anyway and they are not part of this discussion.

These were old planes being refitted and there have been delays. Had these entered service 10 years ago then they would be expensive for what they are. The real expense being long term support.

Even if we had continued as a country.... call it £4bn and 10 planes. So £400mn each. Without support costs going forward. The better Boeing P8 is far cheaper.
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 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 19:36
 Necessary or disgrace? new Perky Penguin 28 Jan 11 19:46
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 19:47
 Necessary or disgrace? new Iffy 28 Jan 11 19:51
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 19:52
 Necessary or disgrace? new Mark 28 Jan 11 19:53
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:02
 Necessary or disgrace? new Mark 28 Jan 11 20:13
 Necessary or disgrace? new Ian (Cape Town) 28 Jan 11 20:17
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:19
 Necessary or disgrace? new Mark 28 Jan 11 20:52
 Necessary or disgrace? new MD 28 Jan 11 19:53
 Necessary or disgrace? new MD 28 Jan 11 19:55
 Necessary or disgrace? new Fenlander 28 Jan 11 19:56
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:00
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 20:05
 Necessary or disgrace? new MD 28 Jan 11 20:06
 Necessary or disgrace? new Iffy 28 Jan 11 20:07
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:12
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 20:16
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:22
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 20:25
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:29
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 20:40
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:54
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 20:59
 Necessary or disgrace? new Bromptonaut 28 Jan 11 21:05
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 21:11
 Necessary or disgrace? new CGNorwich 28 Jan 11 20:12
 Necessary or disgrace? new Kevin 28 Jan 11 20:14
 Necessary or disgrace? new R.P. 28 Jan 11 20:18
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:25
 Necessary or disgrace? new RattleandSmoke 28 Jan 11 20:19
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:22
 Necessary or disgrace? new RattleandSmoke 28 Jan 11 20:23
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:27
 Necessary or disgrace? new RattleandSmoke 28 Jan 11 20:28
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 20:31
 Necessary or disgrace? new R.P. 28 Jan 11 20:32
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 20:41
 Necessary or disgrace? new Fenlander 28 Jan 11 21:04
 Necessary or disgrace? new R.P. 28 Jan 11 21:13
 Necessary or disgrace? new Fenlander 28 Jan 11 21:20
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 21:29
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 21:23
 Necessary or disgrace? new madf 28 Jan 11 21:18
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 21:24
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 21:27
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 21:30
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 21:34
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 21:43
  
 Necessary or disgrace? new Mark 28 Jan 11 21:54
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 21:55
  
 Necessary or disgrace? new midlifecrisis 28 Jan 11 21:48
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 28 Jan 11 21:54
  
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 21:58
  
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 22:20
 Necessary or disgrace? new John H 28 Jan 11 22:51
  
 Necessary or disgrace? new rtj70 28 Jan 11 23:12
 Necessary or disgrace? new rtj70 28 Jan 11 23:14
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 23:23
 Necessary or disgrace? new rtj70 28 Jan 11 23:30
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 23:31
 Necessary or disgrace? new rtj70 28 Jan 11 23:36
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 28 Jan 11 23:50
 Necessary or disgrace? new rtj70 28 Jan 11 23:55
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 29 Jan 11 00:10
 Necessary or disgrace? new hobby 29 Jan 11 08:53
 Necessary or disgrace? new midlifecrisis 29 Jan 11 09:33
 Necessary or disgrace? new madf 29 Jan 11 09:37
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 29 Jan 11 10:28
 Necessary or disgrace? new Perky Penguin 30 Jan 11 07:30
 Necessary or disgrace? new R.P. 30 Jan 11 09:06
 Necessary or disgrace? new Perky Penguin 30 Jan 11 09:16
 Necessary or disgrace? new R.P. 30 Jan 11 09:21
 Necessary or disgrace? new hobby 30 Jan 11 09:45
  
 Necessary or disgrace? new R.P. 30 Jan 11 09:46
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 30 Jan 11 11:46
 Necessary or disgrace? new hobby 30 Jan 11 12:40
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 30 Jan 11 13:03
 Necessary or disgrace? new Zero 30 Jan 11 13:24
 Necessary or disgrace? new hobby 30 Jan 11 16:28
 Necessary or disgrace? new Tooslow 30 Jan 11 17:01
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 30 Jan 11 11:18
 Necessary or disgrace? new Perky Penguin 30 Jan 11 16:33
 Necessary or disgrace? new R.P. 30 Jan 11 16:35
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 30 Jan 11 22:41
 Necessary or disgrace? new swiss tony 30 Jan 11 22:44
 Necessary or disgrace? new Bromptonaut 30 Jan 11 22:44
  
 Necessary or disgrace? new swiss tony 30 Jan 11 22:45
 Necessary or disgrace? new Perky Penguin 31 Jan 11 08:15
  
 Necessary or disgrace? new sooty123 31 Jan 11 17:40
  
 Necessary or disgrace? new Perky Penguin 29 Jan 11 07:46
 Necessary or disgrace? new Perky Penguin 31 Jan 11 10:26
 Necessary or disgrace? new smokie 11 Mar 11 00:19
 Necessary or disgrace? new Ian (Cape Town) 29 Jan 11 13:46
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